7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Mooninites]Warmogs has already been good and people are building. You don't watch NA LCS, I guess[/quote][quote=Mooninites]Warmogs has already been good and people are building. You don't watch NA LCS, I guess[/quote]Ya they started building it 1-2 weeks ago ogn been doing it long before. Thats why you watch ogn if you want be ahead of the game. Solo q still i still hardly ever see it even on tanks in higher elo.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]And with Warmogs, Dr Mundo shall return.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Anyone try this site seems pretty dam good gives you most comm runes/masteries and highest win rate and allot of stats. [url]http://champion.gg/[/url][/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]somehow I doubt support [[Brand]] actually has a higher winrate than [[Janna]] :P[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]somehow I doubt support [[Brand]] actually has a higher winrate than [[Janna]] :P[/quote]Not hard i can see why janna is a popular pick many people will pick her even if there not good at her. Brand is less popular so anyone picking him is likely experienced and good with him so they win more. Not people play support brand so it was just a few games of cheese that got it a high win rate. Its all based off ranked no normal is taken into account.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Cooper112][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]somehow I doubt support [[Brand]] actually has a higher winrate than [[Janna]] :P[/quote]Not hard i can see why janna is a popular pick many people will pick her even if there not good at her. Brand is less popular so anyone picking him is likely experienced and good with him so they win more. Not people play support brand so it was just a few games of cheese that got it a high win rate. Its all based off ranked no normal is taken into account.[/quote] That's not why. It's harder to maintain a high win rate the more games that have been played. Brand support has a smaller sample pool ("3429 Analyzed This Patch"), while Janna has a huge one ("111248 Analyzed This Patch"). It's harder for 111,248 games to have a 54% win rate than 3429 games to have that. If Brand support were played anywhere near as much, even if still by the "people picking him because they're experienced", his winrate would drop the more games he accumulates. That's why that site has so many useless features. What's the point of saying which mastery page has the highest win rate if the highest win rate page has 100 games while the most popular one has 1,000,000 games? It's not a fair comparison. If you do well with a smaller sample pool, you'll have a better win rate than someone doing just as well with more games played.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]And with Warmogs, Dr Mundo shall return.[/quote] And with [[dr. mundo]]'s return, [[poppy]] shall return.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Cooper112][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]somehow I doubt support [[Brand]] actually has a higher winrate than [[Janna]] :P[/quote]Not hard i can see why janna is a popular pick many people will pick her even if there not good at her. Brand is less popular so anyone picking him is likely experienced and good with him so they win more. Not people play support brand so it was just a few games of cheese that got it a high win rate. Its all based off ranked no normal is taken into account.[/quote] That's not why. It's harder to maintain a high win rate the more games that have been played. Brand support has a smaller sample pool ("3429 Analyzed This Patch"), while Janna has a huge one ("111248 Analyzed This Patch"). It's harder for 111,248 games to have a 54% win rate than 3429 games to have that. If Brand support were played anywhere near as much, even if still by the "people picking him because they're experienced", his winrate would drop the more games he accumulates. That's why that site has so many useless features. What's the point of saying which mastery page has the highest win rate if the highest win rate page has 100 games while the most popular one has 1,000,000 games? It's not a fair comparison. If you do well with a smaller sample pool, you'll have a better win rate than someone doing just as well with more games played.[/quote] Smaller player base usually means better players just saying that 100% has to do with it. Since there are less bad players playing brand support. There are likely more people who actually practice and use it correctly. Then there are just clearly op champs that are easy to play like Jarvan and Ahri.[/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth][quote=NicknameMy][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]And with Warmogs, Dr Mundo shall return.[/quote] And with [[dr. mundo]]'s return, [s][[poppy]][/s] [[trundle]] shall return.[/quote] Especially now since minions got less resistance but more hp, giving [[trundle]] even more sustain :D. That being said, I doubt [[dr. mundo]] will return.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0][quote=Zordagoth] That being said, I doubt [[dr. mundo]] will return.[/quote] Well I can't think of anyone else who scales off raw hp as well as him. Maybe Vlad? Or Zac?[/quote]