7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=LevasK][[Kha'zix]] was built as a bruiser, back when they gave [[Void Assault]] a 50% DR while in stealth and his [[Taste Their Fear]] had a 6% of targets missing health damage. (Also, Isolation worked differently and I think gave more damage) I could try and recall the build that was used, if you want.[/quote] He wasn't built a bruiser. He played like a bruiser because of the reasons you listed (the DR is the big one here). He still just went full AD with a resistance item like most standard assassin builds. Isolation worked pretty much the same, it's just the range an ally has to be away from you to be isolated was increased. On his release though, isolation made the percentage health when evolved come into effect. It would just deal flat damage otherwise. Now, it's completely removed, and no percentage of missing health damage occurs. The thing that really pushed Evolved: Camouflage over the edge was when they buffed it so evolved, it not only gave you the increased DR and the extra usage, but also buffed it so when evolved, stealth lasts 2 seconds. That's 6 seconds of having 50% reduced damage on an assassin. Ultimately, this made him play like a bruiser and not like the opportunistic assassin like how Riot intended for him to be. Nerfs came in to make him like how Riot intended. The DR was removed so he now has to use it to weave in and out of combat as opposed to using it to just slug it out with other characters due to receiving a lot less damage. Isolation range was increased so it means that a person really does have to be isolated to receive the isolation bonus, not just slightly behind the rest of the team. What I'm trying to get at is he wasn't built a bruiser. He had the tools within his kit that made him a bruiser. There were probably some builds that existed somewhere out there that people preferred (I believe InSec built a [[Sunfire Cape]] on him if memory serves, but that's because [[Kha'zix]] as a champion was just able to stay in the middle of fights for so long), but it was his kit itself that allowed him to be played as a full on bruiser despite mainly building damage.[/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth]@Falseo : really o_o where were you when Kha was on every game, and needed only Elder Lizard and Last Whisper to deal stupid amount of damage ?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]added nidalee jungle kha still does nuts damage with jungle item + lw[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Any one try E max on jax? I found it pretty dam strong kinda similar to maxing e on IRE.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]but W is an AA reset. AA + W + AA is so hard to trade, and W's low cd allows for such little counterplay[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=utopus]but W is an AA reset. AA + W + AA is so hard to trade, and W's low cd allows for such little counterplay[/quote] I like the burst. I tried it and i can burst them down and kill them faster. Same with IRE im starting to max e then q burst>over long fights and i seem to snowball much better and win lane more.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Zordagoth]@Falseo : really o_o where were you when Kha was on every game, and needed only Elder Lizard and Last Whisper to deal stupid amount of damage ?[/quote] I read your two damage items and ask you where the bruiser part is. All I saw of Kha'zix, ever, is him going full damage with 1 defensive items. 2 if you count early Maw of Malmortius, which he didn't always buy.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Warmogs seems to be on rise i seeing it alot more especially in jungle. In korea at least na has not figured it out yet i guess.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]Warmogs has already been good and people are building. You don't watch NA LCS, I guess[/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth][quote=FalseoGod] I read your two damage items and ask you where the bruiser part is. All I saw of Kha'zix, ever, is him going full damage with 1 defensive items. 2 if you count early Maw of Malmortius, which he didn't always buy.[/quote] It was something like Elder Lizard/Last Whisper and then randuin/banshee[/quote]