7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=TheKut][[Leona]] has been favored quite a lot lately in LCS, is there a reason you have placed her so low?[/quote] Her main draw is her ability to get her ADC fed early game and make picks in the late. Sadly, [[Janna]], [[Thresh]] and [[Morgana]] are very popular right now in solo queue and competitive for the former two, and they all have very good match-ups against her. They can render a [[Leona]]'s initiation virtually nil wit their disengage. Also, if you want to make picks, then once again, [[Thresh]] and [[Nami]] outclass her because they offer more than [[Leona]]. All [[Leona]] really does is just go into a fight and maybe peel. [[Nami]] and [[Thresh]] can do all that on top of other things. Honestly, I'd place her lower for competitive. The only really good match-ups [[Leona]] has right now is against [[Annie]] and [[Vel'koz]], both of which are decently popular in solo queue. Do pick her in those match-ups, you'll have a very fun time.[/quote]

[quote=NorthernRedStar][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=TheKut][[Leona]] has been favored quite a lot lately in LCS, is there a reason you have placed her so low?[/quote] Her main draw is her ability to get her ADC fed early game and make picks in the late. Sadly, [[Janna]], [[Thresh]] and [[Morgana]] are very popular right now in solo queue and competitive for the former two, and they all have very good match-ups against her. They can render a [[Leona]]'s initiation virtually nil wit their disengage. Also, if you want to make picks, then once again, [[Thresh]] and [[Nami]] outclass her because they offer more than [[Leona]]. All [[Leona]] really does is just go into a fight and maybe peel. [[Nami]] and [[Thresh]] can do all that on top of other things. Honestly, I'd place her lower for competitive. The only really good match-ups [[Leona]] has right now is against [[Annie]] and [[Vel'koz]], both of which are decently popular in solo queue. Do pick her in those match-ups, you'll have a very fun time.[/quote] Leona is good against Vel'koz? Are you kidding me? I make sure every Leona picker will have extremely painful time dying to my Vel'koz over and over again.[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=NorthernRedStar][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=TheKut][[Leona]] has been favored quite a lot lately in LCS, is there a reason you have placed her so low?[/quote] Her main draw is her ability to get her ADC fed early game and make picks in the late. Sadly, [[Janna]], [[Thresh]] and [[Morgana]] are very popular right now in solo queue and competitive for the former two, and they all have very good match-ups against her. They can render a [[Leona]]'s initiation virtually nil wit their disengage. Also, if you want to make picks, then once again, [[Thresh]] and [[Nami]] outclass her because they offer more than [[Leona]]. All [[Leona]] really does is just go into a fight and maybe peel. [[Nami]] and [[Thresh]] can do all that on top of other things. Honestly, I'd place her lower for competitive. The only really good match-ups [[Leona]] has right now is against [[Annie]] and [[Vel'koz]], both of which are decently popular in solo queue. Do pick her in those match-ups, you'll have a very fun time.[/quote] Leona is good against Vel'koz? Are you kidding me? I make sure every Leona picker will have extremely painful time dying to my Vel'koz over and over again.[/quote] While her lack of sustain means that she can struggle against poke if she plays poorly, champions like [[Vel'koz]], [[Annie]] and [[Sona]] can't handle an all in from [[Leona]]. Now, how about not nitpicking on such irrelevant minor details in a post and actually commenting on the entire content of the post. Good match-ups are match-ups that are favourable for one champion, they are not hard counters. All this emphasis on counter picks is incredibly overvalued within the community. A good player can beat someone who is playing someone with a good-match up against them. If someone says counter, then don't take it so much to heart. Winning the game is based on player skill before champions picked.[/quote]

[quote=NorthernRedStar][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=NorthernRedStar][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=TheKut][[Leona]] has been favored quite a lot lately in LCS, is there a reason you have placed her so low?[/quote] Her main draw is her ability to get her ADC fed early game and make picks in the late. Sadly, [[Janna]], [[Thresh]] and [[Morgana]] are very popular right now in solo queue and competitive for the former two, and they all have very good match-ups against her. They can render a [[Leona]]'s initiation virtually nil wit their disengage. Also, if you want to make picks, then once again, [[Thresh]] and [[Nami]] outclass her because they offer more than [[Leona]]. All [[Leona]] really does is just go into a fight and maybe peel. [[Nami]] and [[Thresh]] can do all that on top of other things. Honestly, I'd place her lower for competitive. The only really good match-ups [[Leona]] has right now is against [[Annie]] and [[Vel'koz]], both of which are decently popular in solo queue. Do pick her in those match-ups, you'll have a very fun time.[/quote] Leona is good against Vel'koz? Are you kidding me? I make sure every Leona picker will have extremely painful time dying to my Vel'koz over and over again.[/quote] While her lack of sustain means that she can struggle against poke if she plays poorly, champions like [[Vel'koz]], [[Annie]] and [[Sona]] can't handle an all in from [[Leona]]. Now, how about not nitpicking on such irrelevant minor details in a post and actually commenting on the entire content of the post. Good match-ups are match-ups that are favourable for one champion, they are not hard counters. [b]All this emphasis on counter picks is incredibly overvalued within the community[/b]. A good player can beat someone who is playing someone with a good-match up against them. If someone says counter, then don't take it so much to heart. [b]Winning the game is based on player skill before champions picked.[/b][/quote] Tru dat. Although I might as well add that Vel'koz can avoid an all-in from Leona pre-6 rather easily. As long as you avoid the ultimate you're fine.[/quote]

[quote=Blian]is [[gnar]] a good pick in low elo soloQ?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Blian]is [[gnar]] a good pick in low elo soloQ?[/quote] Probably not. He's retarded good, but he can't single handedly carry a team of idiots.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Blian]is [[gnar]] a good pick in low elo soloQ?[/quote] Probably not. He's retarded good, but he can't single handedly carry a team of idiots.[/quote] In low Elo everything's possible :^)[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]My friends on skype told me to go ADC Annie on my gold smurf as a joke and surprisingly I ended up like 11/1/13 or something like that, so like Janitsu said, anything's possible[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu]And do I even need to mention sirelly vs vynnieboi (cait vs fiddledicks I reckon?)7[/quote]

[quote=Blian][quote=Thalia Kael]My friends on skype told me to go ADC Annie on my gold smurf as a joke and surprisingly I ended up like 11/1/13 or something like that, so like Janitsu said, anything's possible[/quote] man, you would love full ad leblanc :) so much fun![/quote]