terrorearl wrote:
So if they spend few gold on wards and they play safe you are kinda doomed. Its very hard to play him so well that you still kill people later on...
Any good Lee player is both resourceful and creative, wards cannot fully help you against that combination + his kit + his early damage.

NicknameMy wrote:
So basically, the number of good Lee players is 0.0000001%?
Which is true for people playing any champion. Point?

Treu, there is definetly not 100% counterplay but overall
Lee Sin is that one champion thats worth playing just for this 0,000001% of players. (No talking about bronzies where you can pretty much beat people with ap ashe) you can see that on his %win rario. Its one of the lowest, and its like this for a long time.

Ok, so its been a month and I'll put in my 2 cents on what has changed since the time the tier list was last updated. I know that i'll probably miss a few champions.
Mao and Rumble are most likely lower on T1 top from the nerfs.
Hec is up a bit since jugg itemization changes. Fiora prob T1 with GP
Shen and Fizz are lower in T2. Malph, Kass, Elise, Troll, Iri, Jax, Voli, Olaf, are higher
All juggernauts(garen,darius,skarner) are most likely high T2/low T1. Mord is ????? same as tahm
Janna is lower t1. Thresh, leo, naut, shen are up
Kalista and siv are down. The top 3-4 of t2 should be t1
Grag off T1. Azir and Vik lower. Liss is up
This is all i can think of for now, hope that its somewhat accurate.
Mao and Rumble are most likely lower on T1 top from the nerfs.
Hec is up a bit since jugg itemization changes. Fiora prob T1 with GP
Shen and Fizz are lower in T2. Malph, Kass, Elise, Troll, Iri, Jax, Voli, Olaf, are higher
All juggernauts(garen,darius,skarner) are most likely high T2/low T1. Mord is ????? same as tahm
Janna is lower t1. Thresh, leo, naut, shen are up
Kalista and siv are down. The top 3-4 of t2 should be t1
Grag off T1. Azir and Vik lower. Liss is up
This is all i can think of for now, hope that its somewhat accurate.
im not sure ill ever come back to this. league doesnt (and hasnt) interest(ed) me in a few months now. playing multiple games over consecutive days isnt good for my wrist, and not being able to play makes me unable to keep an accurate tier list updated, and if it isnt a good list id rather it just die off completely. im conflicted.

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