A Flash Free Season Three!

[quote=caucheka]like it or not flash is here to stay. theres a reason they didn't put it on an item. is flash frustrating? of course it is. but its just something you're going to have to deal with.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=caucheka] like it or not flash is here to stay. theres a reason they didn't put it on an item. is flash frustrating? of course it is. but its just something you're going to have to deal with. [/quote] Things can be changed.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]I, as a pretty decent player, consider [[Heal]] as a stupid and frustrating summoner spell. You can outplay people as hard as you want but it doesn't matter because they have [[Heal]]. One could argue that it is all part of the game but even if so, it is a part that I seriously dislike. I, as a pretty decent player, consider [[Cleanse]] as a stupid and frustrating summoner spell. You can outplay people as hard as you want but it doesn't matter because they have [[Cleanse]]. One could argue that it is all part of the game but even if so, it is a part that I seriously dislike. I, as a pretty decent player, consider [[Exhaust]] as a stupid and frustrating summoner spell. You can outplay people as hard as you want but it doesn't matter because they have [[Exhaust]]. One could argue that it is all part of the game but even if so, it is a part that I seriously dislike. Shall I continue? Flash is something that is part of the game, and you really just have to learn to abuse it harder than the enemy. Yes, you can flash away, but you can follow up that flash with your own, or just keep them stunned/silenced so they can't flash.[/quote]

[quote=Vavena]Oh god no, not having flash as an ADC main is just asking for trouble in late-game fights.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Temzilla] I, as a pretty decent player, consider [[Heal]] as a stupid and frustrating summoner spell. You can outplay people as hard as you want but it doesn't matter because they have [[Heal]]. One could argue that it is all part of the game but even if so, it is a part that I seriously dislike. I, as a pretty decent player, consider [[Cleanse]] as a stupid and frustrating summoner spell. You can outplay people as hard as you want but it doesn't matter because they have [[Cleanse]]. One could argue that it is all part of the game but even if so, it is a part that I seriously dislike. I, as a pretty decent player, consider [[Exhaust]] as a stupid and frustrating summoner spell. You can outplay people as hard as you want but it doesn't matter because they have [[Exhaust]]. One could argue that it is all part of the game but even if so, it is a part that I seriously dislike. Shall I continue? Flash is something that is part of the game, and you really just have to learn to abuse it harder than the enemy. Yes, you can flash away, but you can follow up that flash with your own, or just keep them stunned/silenced so they can't flash. [/quote] First of all, you shouldn't consider yourself a decent player if you consider [[Flash]] to be of the same value as [[Heal]], [[Cleanse]] and [[Exhaust]]. Second, [[Heal]] is countered by [[Ignite]], [[Cleanse]] isn't by far as powerful as [[Flash]] and [[Exhaust]] is countered by [[Cleanse]]. [[Flash]]ing an enemy [[Flash]] is next to impossible as a blink is instant. Even [[Kassadin]]'s [[Riftwalk]] has a casting time! A [[Flash]] + [[Curse of the Sad mummy]] isn't [[Flash]]able unless you [[Flash]] before he does. Think twice before you start comparing summoner spells and to answer your question: No you do not have to continue.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vavena] Oh god no, not having flash as an ADC main is just asking for trouble in late-game fights. [/quote] That should sound like a challenge! ;)[/quote]

[quote=KoreanSP]It'd be devastating to remove it. Perhaps nerf it? There are various ways to change it. Implement more summoner spells, make it longer CD, make it only usable for a few walls/remove the ability to jump walls larger than the indicated range. In the current game, so many champions rely on it, and it is a play-making element as much as a play-ruining one. I do agree it can be frustrating but it also allows for much variance in gameplay, and I believe that is what makes Flash worth it in not just LoL, but most, if not all MobA type games. I use to an avid hater of Flash, but as I started to play more games where Flash became crucial to make plays and add in an offensive element - I appreciated much more. So no, I disagree with Flash being taken out. Nerfed? Perhaps. Maybe a slight change. Your item suggestion isn't too bad of an idea albeit a bit extreme. It's also hard to implement such a huge change abruptly. As for your challenge, best of luck. It's doable no doubt, after all some champions don't use Flash such as [[Olaf]] and [[Singed]], and I'm sure several more. Just apply the same to all the champions.[/quote]

[quote=MrCuddowls]I VOTE FOR BLINK DAGGER[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]I wish you good luck :3 I'd like to do this too, but I'm going to seriously tryhard in ranked in S3.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]I think removing flash would make champions with gap closes/escapes/etc even more valuable than they have already become. Some champions would become significantly weaker on this basis alone, I don't think taking flash out would be good for the game, unless you plan on making a number of champions suddenly non-competitive[/quote]