I still completely disagree with Orianna's positioning, even though I think tier lists are ****. She has pretty decent lane damage, a strong burst, mobility, can protect herself from ganks quite well, and, most of all, she interacts REALLY WELL with tons of team compos. Heck, any sort of gap closer can benefit from her E+Ulti, such has amumu's Q into R, or Wukong's, bringing displacement, damage and CC without dangering herself that much.
sorry but you complained about all these other tier lists. yours is so far off its not funny.
why would tf be banned from 1600-2600 elo if he is only a tier 2 mid. anivia is only really utilised in tournament play, ahri is an awesome mid, soraka is a pathetic mid. sure you can sit there and sustain but there is no way you can carry a team with soraka mid.
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why would tf be banned from 1600-2600 elo if he is only a tier 2 mid. anivia is only really utilised in tournament play, ahri is an awesome mid, soraka is a pathetic mid. sure you can sit there and sustain but there is no way you can carry a team with soraka mid.
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plz delete this thread, thx.
lol footyballs:
I dun think dis list is that bad even tho I disagree with some points.
But why is tf tier2?
I assume this is a soloQ list - and tf in soloQ especially around lower elo isn't that great
also he said he is 1400 and it's HIS opinion. Dunno why you flame him that hard.
Anivia is prob more like lower tier 1 or upper tier 2 agree on that.
Soraka is by no means pathetic mid and she can carry teams quite easy - derp.
I dun think dis list is that bad even tho I disagree with some points.
But why is tf tier2?
I assume this is a soloQ list - and tf in soloQ especially around lower elo isn't that great
also he said he is 1400 and it's HIS opinion. Dunno why you flame him that hard.
Anivia is prob more like lower tier 1 or upper tier 2 agree on that.
Soraka is by no means pathetic mid and she can carry teams quite easy - derp.

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For one, tier 2 champions are good. They are only slightly below tier 1 champions, why do people not understand this?
@koksei, this isn't a solo q list, this is just my opinion on how good champs are overall, at their potential. I have TF tier 2, because he is a very, very strong pick IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. He is not safe enough, and is too easily countered to be tier 1 imo.
As for the aniv placement, remember the tiers are alphabetical, so just cause she's early in tier 1, doesn't mean I regard her as better than, say, Karthus.
Also, LOLOLOLOLOL @ midraka being bad! xD
Yeah, she only has like 200 dps in AoE from her Q, then a 500ish nuke with a great silence on it. Also her ult that heals your entire team for like 1200+, and her single heal for nearly as much with a HUGE armor buff are both useless, and terrible.
Who the hell cares if your Kog'Maw, or Vayne essentially has almost 4000 health?
Honestly, I'm VERY suprised that people complain to me about these things, yet no one has said anything about where I put Fizz O.O
I was almost SURE that I'd have an army screaming at me for that one o:
@koksei, this isn't a solo q list, this is just my opinion on how good champs are overall, at their potential. I have TF tier 2, because he is a very, very strong pick IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. He is not safe enough, and is too easily countered to be tier 1 imo.
As for the aniv placement, remember the tiers are alphabetical, so just cause she's early in tier 1, doesn't mean I regard her as better than, say, Karthus.
Also, LOLOLOLOLOL @ midraka being bad! xD
Yeah, she only has like 200 dps in AoE from her Q, then a 500ish nuke with a great silence on it. Also her ult that heals your entire team for like 1200+, and her single heal for nearly as much with a HUGE armor buff are both useless, and terrible.
Who the hell cares if your Kog'Maw, or Vayne essentially has almost 4000 health?
Honestly, I'm VERY suprised that people complain to me about these things, yet no one has said anything about where I put Fizz O.O
I was almost SURE that I'd have an army screaming at me for that one o:

Morde should be tier 3 mid, kog should be at least tier 3.
lol at vayne being tier 1, shes tier 2 at best, would possibly even argue her tier 3, twitch should be tier 4
blitz should be tier 2 support hes just as good as alistar
cho should be tier 3 and poppy should be tier 2/3, ive never seen any of the champions since alistar pre nerf in top lane in tier 5
gp should be tier 4 jungler, darius tier 2, rammus tier 3, amumu tier 2, jax, j4, hec could all be argued to tier 2
lol at vayne being tier 1, shes tier 2 at best, would possibly even argue her tier 3, twitch should be tier 4
blitz should be tier 2 support hes just as good as alistar
cho should be tier 3 and poppy should be tier 2/3, ive never seen any of the champions since alistar pre nerf in top lane in tier 5
gp should be tier 4 jungler, darius tier 2, rammus tier 3, amumu tier 2, jax, j4, hec could all be argued to tier 2

@H4x Like I've said, I've only ever seen a few kogs, so I was unsure, mebbe I'll change that.
Vayne is ridiculous if her team supports her. If she's left alone, and expected to do well, and be Vayne all by herself, and loses early, then it isn't really her fault. Maybe I'll drop her to tier 2 though, cause she is risky o:
Blitz CAN be just as good as Alistar, but Alistar is safer. Imo, Blitz is pretty much a less safe version of Leona.
Cho placement is probably biased, cause I love him, but I do consider him tier 2 worthy. ^.^
Poppy imo is a better version of Nasus, she's less risky than him, but she's still crazily risky o:
For the junglers, I can't even remember where I put those guys right now, I'm sleepy >.<
All I know is that Amumu is bad, and I'd never put him tier 2 o:
@Toshabi that might change when twitch is reworked :P
Vayne is ridiculous if her team supports her. If she's left alone, and expected to do well, and be Vayne all by herself, and loses early, then it isn't really her fault. Maybe I'll drop her to tier 2 though, cause she is risky o:
Blitz CAN be just as good as Alistar, but Alistar is safer. Imo, Blitz is pretty much a less safe version of Leona.
Cho placement is probably biased, cause I love him, but I do consider him tier 2 worthy. ^.^
Poppy imo is a better version of Nasus, she's less risky than him, but she's still crazily risky o:
For the junglers, I can't even remember where I put those guys right now, I'm sleepy >.<
All I know is that Amumu is bad, and I'd never put him tier 2 o:
@Toshabi that might change when twitch is reworked :P

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I just prefer him top, cause he has to get close, and the lane is longer, so it's harder for them to get away o:
Again though, it's opinion :P