AP Alistar > AP sion

[quote=Lif3l3ss]Sion: 1.5 sec stun, Shield/nuke, Gives HP for last hits, Lifesteals with auto attacks with ulti popped 1:1 ratio on both abilities Alistar: Knockup/stun, Knockback, AoE heal, HUGE Dmg reduction and gets you out of all CC including suppression ulti's such as Malzahars Super beam and WW Ulti. .8 ratio on Pulverize, 1:1 on Headbutt (this is why i max headbutt first more reliable and hits harder) You build them the same exact way. Alistar has a AoE CC/nuke short range, Sion has an AoE nuked that can be stopped pretty easy by just knocking off the shield before he can blow it up also short range What looks better too you imo. Ali>sion[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]I build em differently but I enjoy AP alistar quite a bit more than AP sion. Start off roaming with a bunch of philosopher stones then transition to AP (roa + lich bane + Rabadon's). That's the way I like to play him out, anyways.[/quote]

[quote=Hamduden]I see one problem here. Alistar damage is still pretty low. Even though it might seem like he got some nice damage in theory, I don't think it's valid in practice. EDIT: like B-Wong says, roam is the way to go! :D[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]Sion's [[death's caress]] is temporary HP on a relatively short CD compared to Ali's kit. Honestly, I play roaming Ali, usually never get past boots, shurelya's, and aegis/BV/Randuins before the game ends somewhere between 30-40 minutes in. AP Alistar can only survive while his ult is up which is 6 seconds... He's built to be played like a tank/support tank, and can go as far as tanky mage, but should still have tank somewhere in there since that's his role. You really can't compare the two, in fact, stick both on the same team, I'll gladly initiate for a followup Sion stun--> shield combo on their team.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]As zeprido pointed out, ap sion kinda got a 1.0 ap scaleing heal. That does aoe... Ap ali don't got that big of a heal[/quote]

[quote=Lif3l3ss]Meh so far it seems like in high level play Roaming is sort of dieing out I believe i saw CLG roam even once this week in tourny play and got destroyed but idk i don't see roams as much as i usually do within the past few months. Maybe im just checking out streams at the wrong time[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]I win just about every game I roam. If you get the early ganks off (with or without a jungler) and get the kills, the game quickly moves into your favor.[/quote]

[quote=stardustalyx]I remember i had an AP Alistar that did ridiculous heals for the team, Ali > Sion, but then again Ali is usually banned in ranked games.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]You're missing the fact that one of Sion's strongest points is his ability to do a ranged stun with Q, making zoning very easy. Alistar struggles with that.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Alistair should be built like a support tank. He has a most excellent skillset for that.[/quote]