CURSE vs. SK Game Discussion

[quote=AncientNecro][quote=Zell] Didn't TSM winn that match know? If it was the Anivia one where SK raped hard at mid-game but lost at the end. Meh, I was hoping for either a Talon or Tryndamere pick at mid against Kassadin. [/quote] o.O If TSM won that one then I'm really, really sorry that I missed the end of it. SK was dominating and I'm pretty sure I switched streams when it looked like another boring, clear cut victory. Pissed I missed it now.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Wayne3100] Why bother discussing something with Duff anyway, he won't change his mind [/quote] I'd be glad to prove it :) And if someone can prove me wrong, I'll gladly admit that Riven beats GP. Until that happens, GP beats Riven.[/quote]

[quote=Zell][quote=DuffTime] [quote=Wayne3100] Why bother discussing something with Duff anyway, he won't change his mind [/quote] I'd be glad to prove it :) And if someone can prove me wrong, I'll gladly admit that Riven beats GP. Until that happens, GP beats Riven. [/quote] Two words. American Riven.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Why, do EU players not know what armor is? lul. Country and game mechanics are completely unrelated. Riven's mechanics lose to GP's mechanics, it doesn't matter who's playing her.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=DuffTime] Country and game mechanics are completely unrelated. Riven's mechanics lose to GP's mechanics, it doesn't matter who's playing her. [/quote] You still didn't reaaally explain why, though. To me it just seems like Riven's shield, ability to get into and out of range and her passive make her a much better pick against GP than a lot of other champions. The fact that GP wins a right click war at level 1 seems mostly irrelevant if Riven isn't an idiot.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]It does matter. Riven can't hard engage/disengage like she can with other champs, and in my experience she doesn't win a right click war. GP's Q's low CD and his W being a heal/anti stun means she can't combo and walk away, she has to take a hit to get one, and it's a trade she eventually loses in my experience. GP just follows her around when she combos and pokes until she shields and then engages. Establishing dominance at level one of course makes a huge difference. When she dings level two it's not like she can just start sustaining. She can choose her shield or her stun I haven't clearly explained it because it's very difficult to put into words how he beats her. GP playstyle is hard to describe. It's hang back and poke, and it's hard engage all at once.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]In my experience, she uses her shield (plus probably one or two Qs) to dash in, stuns, hits you once or twice and then immediatly runs back when the stun wears off. This means the most you can get off is one Q, which will be blocked by her shield.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]No. What kind of GP is just gonna let her go? You run her down and make her pay for engaging. If she wants to engage, you're gonna be sure to get your licks in too.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]She uses the remaining Q procs to get away.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I'm going to chase her, and Q her, all the way to her tower if I have to. I'm going to come out on top of the trades.[/quote]