Doran's Blade start on Junglers

[quote=NicknameMy]Fiddle starts with [[doran's ring]], not [[doran's blade]]. Still, it is a Doran's.^^[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu]I think [[Doran's blade]] is viable start for anyone who can sustain themselves. Like [[Lee Sin]] or [[Xin Zhao]].[/quote]

[quote=I post stuff]I start [[doran's blade]] on [[Xin Zhao]], they make his gank hurt a lot. I'm not sure whether to run LS or MS quints, though. Because with LS his sustain is better, but with MS his ganks are better. Without LS I'm at ~85% hp, which is fine to gank with.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]good on udyr, elise, lee sin.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Tried it a couple of times on [[Shaco]] my only real problem was that you couldn't "powergank" as much since you have to back after 2 mins into your buffs "wasting" buff-time. But i guess shaco's kind of a one of a kind case.[/quote]

[quote=Babit][quote=utopus] Apparently, there's this weird guy named[url=https://www.google.com/search?q=dufftime&oq=dufftime&aqs=chrome.0.69i57j69i60l3j0l2.1216j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8]Dufftime[/url] That sometimes plays dorans blade start junglers from time to time Sounds like a weird dude, huh? ;] [/quote] Lol, is he still around poisoning the intellectual well with his crazy(but good) ideas?[/quote]

[quote=adam1994rules]I don't do this. That's all i am gonna say. Adam[/quote]

[quote=kT coffee][quote=Encross] tl;dr get it if you plan to gank constantly before your first back, otherwise [[hunter's machete]] is better. That's about it. You're just delaying your machete for better starting game ganks. [/quote] Actually, no. The entire purpose of Doran start is to complete a full clear without Machete, then back, or situationally gank or tax, and proceed with way better stats than what Machete gives you. After a clear to level 4, you can back and buy a second Doran with pots and a ward. Now you're stronger than if you would've started Machete and backed, since you have 80 or 160 HP more, 10 or 20 AD more and 5 or 10 on-hit regen. It's also retarded not to jungle with Doran start on heroes like Elise and Lee Sin that have even more sustain or tankiness to warrant Doran's stats over Machete.[/quote]

[quote=Joshified][quote=Embracing] good on udyr, elise, lee sin. [/quote] Elise? Sounds interesting, mind elaborating a bit on it? C: Lee sin can clear the jungle with [[Doran's blade]] easy peasy. I start with it pretty much every game and generally look for a quick level 3 gank or an invade on the enemy jungle. Otherwise I will just clear, go back, buy boots/ward/pots and gank. Boots/Ward/Dorans pretty much makes your ganks unavoidable. I don't actually buy jungle items on [[Lee sin]] anymore. I get two doran's blades then go straight into aegis, it helps his early game SO much and makes him much tankier much quicker.[/quote]

[quote=kT coffee][quote=Joshified] [quote=Embracing] good on udyr, elise, lee sin. [/quote] Elise? Sounds interesting, mind elaborating a bit on it? C: Lee sin can clear the jungle with [[Doran's blade]] easy peasy. I start with it pretty much every game and generally look for a quick level 3 gank or an invade on the enemy jungle. Otherwise I will just clear, go back, buy boots/ward/pots and gank. Boots/Ward/Dorans pretty much makes your ganks unavoidable. I don't actually buy jungle items on [[Lee sin]] anymore. I get two doran's blades then go straight into aegis, it helps his early game SO much and makes him much tankier much quicker. [/quote] Elise should pretty much always start Doran because she doesn't even take any noticeable amount of damage between having sustain with spider W and not taking damage anyways with spiders. You should/can still get Ancient Golem after Doran start as it's extremely cost-efficient in stats aside from giving better clear (500 HP, CDR and Tenacity for 2k is cost-efficient as fuck). The purpose of Doran start is just to have a stronger early game towards midgame with health and AD as opposed to some regen and clearspeed that is overshadowed by Doran anyways.[/quote]