Everyone's thoughts on Karma?

[quote=SinDelta]Phreak said that? I didn't watch it lol[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli]Well watch it! He suggests how to build/skill/spec her like always.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=SinDelta] I have to disagree maxing her shield first provides better support and major nuke not to mention it scales better with ap ratio than her heavenly wave. To be honest i think Riot was shot on with her, I've been waiting for a support champion who can fend for themselves [/quote] I think it's best to have a farming mechanism first, as well as her Q is an AoE heal which is best for laning.[/quote]

[quote=SinDelta]Her shield is an amazing farming spell you can even cast it on minions with a mantra charge to kill a whole wave at like only 3-4 levels into it[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Trojan995] [quote=Jebus McAzn] What are your thoughts on skilling order? I'm saying definitely max Q first, regardless, then probably alternate maxing W and E. [/quote] Definitely. Support or nuke, her Q is her best skill. I tried maxing W and E first, but I was absolutely useless. Prioritizing E over W might be best. So... QEQWQEQWQEQWEWEWEW something along those lines. Also, her mantras run out VERY fast - you'll probably only have a chance to get 3 mantras off at best during a team fight. CDR IS A MUST! I don't know if you guys think it's best to get a 25% CDR item, or just stick with 2 15% items and let masteries/runes do the rest. The only way I see mantras being effective is if you start off something like this: [[ruby crystal]]/[[sapphire crystal]] [[ionian boots of lucidity]] [[soul shroud]]/[[shurelya's reverie]]/[[frozen heart]] Start with the ruby crystal to get the [[kindlegem]] faster, or the sapphire crystal to get the [[glacial shroud]] faster. Getting max CDR is imperative to make your mantras actually useful, otherwise you're going to lack a heal when you need it or you won't be able to get your shield to be of any damaging use. [/quote] After trying this out, I realized karma has WAY too much mana problems to do anything but focus that at first. So, a revised early-game build that I think I'll try soon... [[mana manipulator]] [[ionian boots of lucidity]] [[soul shroud]] [[archangel's staff]] I think that gives enough CDR (with runes/masteries) and a bunch of nifty mana regen.[/quote]

[quote=TheWorldAsunder]Right now, I think karma is one of the first champions that they've released recently that is incredibly solid. Like, I don't think she's OP in any way, but she is definitely solid. I've been building her as an AP nuke rather than support and I'm getting some pretty good scores. As far as skilling I've been going QWQEQWQWQWQWEWEEEE for the nuke. W actually scales better than E with ult, and Q. So when I have my deathcap and my void staff, general combo is to W an ally or minion behind the champ, R Q R E. Hits pretty hard.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Should definitely bind your "S" or "T" key to selfcast "E". It's so much faster.[/quote]

[quote=Visfarix]What do you guys think of jungle karma? I saw stonewall's jungle video for her and it seemed like it was pretty good. He got to level 6 in 6mins:50secs. I have practically no experience jungling so I don't know if this is good or not, but it seems impressive. [url=http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=487988&page=1]http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=487988&page=1[/url][/quote]

[quote=Dalus]What about a build along the lines of... Doran's Ring Boots of Speed Ionian Boots (can switch with below) Mana Manipulator (can switch with above) Soul Shroud Abyssal Scepter Rabadon's Deathcap (prob. games will be over at this point, build to whatever the fight dictates) Running MPen reds MRegen/lvl yellows CDR/lvl blues then either AP or MPen quints and a 9/0/21 build[/quote]

[quote=shadows fiji]i feel she is OP but will get nerfed next week ...:P[/quote]