Help picking next champ to master

[quote=ScrubDubbins]I am looking for ideas on my next champion to buy. I currently own Garen, Orianna, and Katarina. Please give reasoning for your suggestions. I am quickly approaching the 6300 IP mark at level 14. I currently own Orianna, Katarina, and Garen. I am looking for another champion to master. I enjoy champs with high learning curves, but not a necessity. Replay value is important to me :) I have been considering, Lee Sin, Draven, Shaco, and Nocture. Definitely open to suggestions as there are so many! Types of Champs I find boring are Brand, Sion, Pantheon stuff like that. Would prefer to play a male champion. Thank your for your suggestions and time! P.S. Thank you to the MobaFire community for the great work you're doing. I love the guides, they have certainly improved my gameplay![/quote]

[quote=Bellpepper]Do you have any specific role you want to play? I mean Lee Sin, Shaco and Nocturne are pretty good junglers. Draven is a nice ADC I guess, although I don't really like playing him. And well, Rammus isn't all that great in my opinion, since buying resistances got expensive (and black cleaver cuts through his passive and everyone gets it), he isn't a very good laner and his jungling didn't get any better either, although if he can get some assists and/or kills he becomes quite nice as initiator.[/quote]

[quote=ScrubDubbins]Thanks for the reply BellPepper. A champ that scales well throughout the game and is pretty versatile. Jungle/Top I play aggressively even as Orianna. I enjoy laneing, i don't have a jungler yet and im certainly not opposed to the idea. Why do you not like Draven? I enjoy playing skill shot champs and something that takes some effort and thought; tanking is not my forte. I will rule out Rammus right now then.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][[Irelia]] top [[Maokai]] jungle [[olaf]] both also [[Riven]] for both roles, but better toplane, imo.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You are only a master, if you master the master, [[master yi]].[/quote]

[quote=Anastasios][quote=NicknameMy] You are only a master, if you master the master, [[master yi]]. [/quote] Your skills are inferior.[/quote]

[quote=ScrubDubbins]Ugh, Master Yi is so... yi. Haha, looking for something a little more unique. I played the free play on Riven. While it was fun, it felt like her skills weren't anything out of the ordinary.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Lee Sin]] and [[Shaco]] both got pretty substantial nerfs recently. I wouldn't necessarily pick them up. I've played [[Lee sin]] quite extensively and right now I think he's pretty weak. [[Nocturne]] is good. I think he's really underrated, but kind of loses out on full potential in solo queue because his ult requires some coordination. You seem to like bruisers, so how about [[Renekton]] or maybe [[Irelia]]?[/quote]

[quote=ScrubDubbins]Thank you Mooninite. I do enjoy playing bruisers and skill shots. I really enjoy Lux and Sona during their free rotation, but i'm looking for something with better ganking potential. I don't mind squishy characters as long as they are quick. To best honest I was really thinking draven would be fun, but heard he is easily countered. I did not read of the nerf on Lee Sin, only on Shaco. Can you link me to it?[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote] Shaco Deceive Range reduced to 400 from 500 Two-Shiv Poison Slow reduced at earlier ranks to 10/15/20/25/30% from 20/22.5/25/27.5/30% [/quote] that's from the most recent, season 3 patch [quote] Safeguard: Fixed a bug where the tooltip incorrectly stated that Lee Sin regained energy when the shield was broken. Iron Will: No longer grants armor while active. Life steal and spell vamp increased to 5/10/15/20/25% from 5/9/13/17/21%. Cripple: Slow amount reduced at earlier ranks to 20/30/40/50/60% from 30/37.5/45/52.5/60%. Range reduced to 600 from 800. [/quote] and that's from the previous patch. The most recent 2 patches, both have seen nerfs I don't really understand what you mean by 'ganking potential' and quick. Are you specifically looking for a jungler then? I don't think [[Draven]] is that easily countered, and he's fairly difficult to play. Maybe try [[Jarvan IV]]. Honestly, I have no idea what you want. When you say gank potential I assume you mean jungler but then you throw out ideas like [[Draven]][/quote]