Is Zyra Viable?

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I specified health and armor because seals and quints is where you'd take hp5 runes. You should only take MR against a high magic damage support, it's kinda pointless against some of the tankier stuff or champions like [[Janna]] who just don't deal much magic damage. Also, armor quints are usually not as good as AP or Mpen, but some people like them. As for the CDR comment, I would never take scaling CDR glyphs on [[Zyra]] (or any support, for that matter). The whole point of her is to be extremely oppressive early and flat AP or Mpen are much better choices for that. She already gets 10% CDR for free which furthers the overkill factor of it. Plus, given that tanks are pretty popular, I'd say [[morellonomicon]] will be a fairly common buy and 15% CDR in runes really causes a lot of overcapping CDR if you ever need anything besides [[frost queen's claim]]. Which, as a support, it's your job to buy such things as [[mikael's crucible]] or, even, [[locket of the iron solari]] if your team needs them.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Sirnikolai][quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Sirnikolai][[Zyra]]she's extremely squishy so in your runes have Health regen & just plain AP, so you can easily get a death from the grave.[/quote]You should use the same runes you'd use on any AP support or a set-up that favors mpen over AP if you prefer it. Health regen won't make you tankier, health and armor will. [quote]I got a triple kill from the grave in ARAM, but it will NOT count as a kill mind you.[/quote]If you actually get the kill it will, but you have to actually finish them off entirely or be the last person to deal damage to a target to get the kill, just like when you're alive. [quote]Her role is massive poking early lane in SR WARD Properly KNOW THE GANKS. Builds MUST include 1 Colddown reduction.[/quote]It's important to note that the CDR options on her are fewer than on many of the more utility based supports. [[Frost Queen's Claim]] is often considered core and other options are mostly things like [[Morellonomicon]], [[Twin Shadows]], and [[Mikael's Crucible]] unless you're behind afaik.[/quote] She's extremely squishy so armor wouldn't do as much as MR is needed more of. [/quote] I think I just grew an extra chromosome[/quote]

[quote=Hatted]The question you're asking in the poll is pretty weird, but I feel like she's extremely viable mid. She offers a kit similar to that of Lulu/Morgana mid. She has a decent bit of CC with some helpful abilities in teamfights and lane. While she might not be as lethal as say, a Talon or LeBlanc, I feel she's a good mid laner with quite a bit of harass and helpfulness for a team. But for the love of cock do not go top lane. Edit: Support's a bit iffy. She has some damage and CC (like a mentioned earlier) but I haven't seen her work as a support in a while. Morgana and her have, imo, very similar kits. The both rely on throwing a root onto an enemy, using their circular spells (One's a dot, while the other is instant damage), but the difference is the shield/plants. Where one has a bit more damage the other is able to protect allies from a potentially really poor situation. I think she works better as a mid laner.[/quote]

[quote=Jovy]She was a good mid laner when she got released, but since getting nerfed ages back she's barely viable in mid lane. Like if she's barely okay as a support, why would she be extremely viable (whatever that means, I understood it as "good") in middle?[/quote]

[quote=Hatted][quote=MissMaw]She was a good mid laner when she got released, but since getting nerfed ages back she's barely viable in mid lane. Like if she's barely okay as a support, why would she be extremely viable (whatever that means, I understood it as "good") in middle?[/quote] Times I've seen her she's been a powerhouse, so I'm speaking on purely my own experience. I can see how she lacks in lane, with the very specific casting area and lack of actual teamfight damage or overall damage. She felt rough against Talon (and I pray lord Vapora agrees/doesn't hate me) and I'd imagine that she's good for counter picking in some areas. But like I said, her ult's good in fights if done correctly and her plants can help a lot in fights, I'd imagine (provided they stay alive). Once again, this is just my own experience.[/quote]