Jungle Nation - Jungling Strategy Talk

[quote=Pheyniex]he didn't contradict himself because you need a player for a champion to "work". At lower ranks, a player is too much of a variable. It is fairly easy to ba a failed [[orianna]] or [[ahri]], not really going to mention the amazing [[Cataclysm]]s i see once in a while.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]yeah lasty no silver player can ever use lee sin correctly, the same goes for all high skill cap champions and if someone can use those high skill cap champions they arnt actually silver even though theyre in silver, the only champions silver players can play are things like akali darius master yi and teemo which is why theyre still all in silver sarcasm tho being in silver ive seen people actually play lee sin correctly, yes there have been extremely terrible ones but there are also good ones, same with jarven, my post was just about how every single game its me using vi/nocturne against a lee/jarven every single game for jungling[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]This has gotten really off topic. What'd y'all think of my video!?[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]needs fireworks.[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist][quote=C4 Lasty] This has gotten really off topic. What'd y'all think of my video!? [/quote] better if you were in your birthday suit ;)[/quote]

[quote=Joshified]Was actually really informative and interesting :3 You should really look into maybe writing up some guides on some jungle champs? Your understanding of the CURRENT meta is really refreshing and is something I personally don't get the chance to keep up on, due to my low gold status >.> Perhaps you could delve a little bit into counters? I never know who to play against other junglers if I get the chance to counter, or do junglers simply not counter each other?[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]i think in your next one you should go into counter jungling, like when to do it and when not to do it, i constantly see people trying to counter jungle only to die in the enemy jungle or our team keeps successfully counter jungling so much that we go in and die later anyways[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]I can go into counterjungling, its a huge part of my game. There are definitely counters in the jungle. But, its about countering the other jungler in team fights, less about countering them during early game/laning phase. Lee Sin can murder Elise in her jungle all day. Jarvan counters Nocturne in team fights. Nautilus shuts down Zac. They just aren't counters in the normal sense. I'll add it to my talking points for Saturday.[/quote]

[quote=Joshified]Good to hear C: Will definitely be tuning in again. Not often that I find someone who actually knows what they are talking about... I just want to learn as much as I can about jungle so I can improve since I really enjoy the gameplay of jungle. I think my biggest problem would be my HUGE dislike of the top three junglers. I really dislike playing Jarvan, something feels off with him. Lee sin is extremely mechanical so I find myself losing myself in trying to pull off fancy moves rather than focusing on playing smart and Vi is overall just a champ whom I openly despise. By not playing these 3 junglers am I hindering myself from climbing? I play Elise/Nocturne mostly because I enjoy them (regardless of how bad my Nocturne ults are >.>) and was wondering, can they still keep up with the new 'trinity' of jingle janglers?[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]Elise is still tier 1. I'd put her at #4 shes very good. Nocturne isn't my cup of tea only because I tend to shy away from feast/famine type champions. He's strong as well, I have him high tier 2. You can do fine with anyone as long as you put in the time to master them.[/quote]