Jungle Nation - Jungling Strategy Talk

[quote=NicknameMy]Why not just jungle [[Nautilus]] instead?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=NicknameMy] Since Master Yi got his rework, he is probably the strongest meele adc atm (Tryndamere and his ulti...), he doesn't even need that much damage items in order to kill you nearly instantly. [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]]/[[statikk shiv]] and [[Infinity Edge]] are most of the time enough. You can fit in 2 or even 3 defense items. [/quote] He still gets massacred by CC regardless of what he does. His only true niche is as an assassin, because yes, as you say he can kill carries very easily with few items. However his old trope; splitpushing, he is outclassed heavily in, sadly, by [[Rengar]] and [[Tryndamere]][/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=YayaFTW] Thoughts on [[Leona]] jungle? I suppose she's easily counterjungled and she has a slow clear and a hard lvl 1-3 jungle clear, but her kit is so amazing. Also, how should one itemize her? [/quote] Same way you'd itemize any other jungling tank. Leona is just a super advanced effort version of naut or Amumu. If you want challenge mode and actualling having to snowball as a tank then sure, go for it.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Jungle Leona is pretty much a support Leona with farm. Pretty damn scary.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]It is scary indeed, but her clear speed is the main problem because she cannot proc her own passive.[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty][quote=Vynertje] [quote=C4 Lasty] Rammus is actually pretty strong. I think he's the best of the tank/support junglers. You run 6-21-3 AS/MS. Rush Madreds into Mobility Boots into Sunfire Cape. Max Taunt first. I play a mean Rammus and I think he's pretty good vs heavy AD teams. You can't pick him early because he doesn't do as well VS teams that do mostly AP damage. [/quote] I personally wouldn't pick him into any aggressive jungler as well. By the way, what are your thoughts on hybrid pen marks on him? I run hybrid pen marks all the time on him and I have been messing around with armor seals for jungle sustain/damage. [/quote] You run AS reds, Armor Yellows, Mr Blues, and MS quints. Hybrid Pen isn't optimal because his clear speed is so bad. Rammus isn't about bringing damage to a fight. Its about having a 3 second taunt at lvl 9.[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty][quote=NicknameMy] Since Master Yi got his rework, he is probably the strongest meele adc atm (Tryndamere and his ulti...), he doesn't even need that much damage items in order to kill you nearly instantly. [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]]/[[statikk shiv]] and [[Infinity Edge]] are most of the time enough. You can fit in 2 or even 3 defense items. [/quote] Please tone down the Yi CHUB. You need to realize how bad melee ADCs are. Tryndamere is the best of the bunch and he's not even tier 1 for top. Talking about the best melee ADC is like talking about the best form of Hepatitis, they all suck. Yi isn't viable past silver, he gets focused and melted.[/quote]

[quote=YayaFTW][quote=Vynertje] It is scary indeed, but her clear speed is the main problem because she cannot proc her own passive. [/quote] Is it stupid to get a madred on her instead of a spirit item? I mean if she solves the clear speed problem, she's literally a ganking monster. Her allies proc her passive during ganks, her kit is phenomenal aswell.[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty][quote=YayaFTW] [quote=Vynertje] It is scary indeed, but her clear speed is the main problem because she cannot proc her own passive. [/quote] Is it stupid to get a madred on her instead of a spirit item? I mean if she solves the clear speed problem, she's literally a ganking monster. Her allies proc her passive during ganks, her kit is phenomenal aswell. [/quote] I know one decent Leona jungle, he builds Ancient Golem. Leona is alright her clear is pretty crappy its like Shen jungle, strong ganks but she doesn't scale all that well because she can't farm. I'd rather play Shen.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I prefer ancient golem on Leona jungle too, she's still fairly easy to kite even if she lands [[Zenith Blade]].[/quote]