Jungle Nation - Jungling Strategy Talk

[quote=C4 Lasty]We'll go over the new Season 4 changes on Saturday in episode 4. Guys if you want a shout-out on air go ahead and post some questions in here and I'll answer them Saturday on the podcast.[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist]yes please. will work on question list. asap. EDIT: 1) How will jungle play be effected in general? 2) From what i could tell...smite has much lower cooldown...what effect do you think this will have? 3) Changed wriggles...think it will be more useful now? 4) Good junglers always buy a ward here and there...think sightstone becomes a more viable option for jungle now though? 5) Do you think ganking will be easier or harder with new sight system? 6) Do you think one trinket will be the jungle choice or will it be situational like most items are? obviously i am just brainstorming questions...may think of more later...take and answer whateva you want :)[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]Watch my podcast live in 20 minutes. This week we will be interviewing Azingy, the man, the myth, the legend. If you have any questions specifically for Azingy ask them now.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Don't know if this is worth answering on the pod cast, but when exactly in your build do you buy Doran's Blade? ( I mainly jungle Vi so assume it's Vi ) On your first B along with boots, or second B after you have [[spirit stone]]? Would you ever get 2 Doran's Blades on Vi or just 1? When do you get [[the brutalizer]] if you're ahead? First B if you can afford it already, or 2nd-3rd B after you already have [[kindlegem]]?[/quote]

[quote=SOAC Bas]The Newest show is up and ready to go. Thank you Azingy 11/2/13 – In this week’s epic Jungle Nation, Karthus jungling Azingy joins the crew to talk all things Jungle. He discusses playing a unique jungler. What the season 4 means for Jungling as a whole. You can follow Azingy on twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/lolazingy Don’t forget to like us on Facebook and follow the updates on Twitter or YouTube. If you have any questions about Jungling that we forgot or would like us to ask in a future session please email them to podcast@sittingonacouch.com http://sittingonacouch.com/league-legends-jungle-podcast-jungle-nation-ep-4-azingy-karthus-jungle/ On a side note, we are looking at starting an articles section if anyone is interested in writing League Columns.[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist]good as always. very informative. good discussion. season 4 is going to be a big change![/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty][quote=Bioalchemist] yes please. will work on question list. asap. EDIT: 1) How will jungle play be effected in general? 2) From what i could tell...smite has much lower cooldown...what effect do you think this will have? 3) Changed wriggles...think it will be more useful now? 4) Good junglers always buy a ward here and there...think sightstone becomes a more viable option for jungle now though? 5) Do you think ganking will be easier or harder with new sight system? 6) Do you think one trinket will be the jungle choice or will it be situational like most items are? obviously i am just brainstorming questions...may think of more later...take and answer whateva you want :) [/quote] Sorry we didn't get to it on the show, ran out of time. 1/2) I think starting in season 4 you'll start where you bot side is and the support will stay to leash for you. You'll Smite your first buff and maybe clear a small camp then go to your 2nd buff once Smite is back up. 3) I don't know...none of the new jungle items look very good to me =( 4) Aren't they taking sightstone out of the game? I buy at least 1 ward every time I back. I like to keep enemy wraiths warded. 5) Ganking early will stay the same. I don't see more laners picking up early lvl 1 wards. Items OP. 6) Trinkets are looking pretty situational to me[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty][quote=Vapora Dark] Don't know if this is worth answering on the pod cast, but when exactly in your build do you buy Doran's Blade? ( I mainly jungle Vi so assume it's Vi ) On your first B along with boots, or second B after you have [[spirit stone]]? Would you ever get 2 Doran's Blades on Vi or just 1? When do you get [[the brutalizer]] if you're ahead? First B if you can afford it already, or 2nd-3rd B after you already have [[kindlegem]]? [/quote] I like to get a Dorans Blade every game unless I'm insanely behind. I try to back with 1300+ gold so I can get boots, Dorans Blade, Spirit Stone, a ward and a few pots. I generally only get a Brutalizer if I get 3-4 kills early and then whenever I have the gold for it. No specific time as to when you should get it.[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist][quote=C4 Lasty] [quote=Bioalchemist] yes please. will work on question list. asap. EDIT: 1) How will jungle play be effected in general? 2) From what i could tell...smite has much lower cooldown...what effect do you think this will have? 3) Changed wriggles...think it will be more useful now? 4) Good junglers always buy a ward here and there...think sightstone becomes a more viable option for jungle now though? 5) Do you think ganking will be easier or harder with new sight system? 6) Do you think one trinket will be the jungle choice or will it be situational like most items are? obviously i am just brainstorming questions...may think of more later...take and answer whateva you want :) [/quote] Sorry we didn't get to it on the show, ran out of time. 1/2) I think starting in season 4 you'll start where you bot side is and the support will stay to leash for you. You'll Smite your first buff and maybe clear a small camp then go to your 2nd buff once Smite is back up. 3) I don't know...none of the new jungle items look very good to me =( 4) Aren't they taking sightstone out of the game? I buy at least 1 ward every time I back. I like to keep enemy wraiths warded. 5) Ganking early will stay the same. I don't see more laners picking up early lvl 1 wards. Items OP. 6) Trinkets are looking pretty situational to me [/quote] sightstone is out? oh shit....didn't see that but i believe ya...that changes things. thanks for answering the questions :)[/quote]

[quote=SkidmarkD]The sightstones aren't out. The limit of wards they hold are out. It's now only limited to the amount of wards a player can place on the map. For ruby sightstone nothing changes. Doesn't change much for [[Lee Sin]]. Removing sightstones would've hurt him a lot. This change is a buff for him, no need to go back as often or use his wards sparingly. The changes in vision is gonna bring back [[Teemo]]'s heaven of shrooms. New camp on blue buff side. Called it. No way they were gonna have 4 camps one side and 2 on the other. Change in blue buff is gonna hurt early game. That 20% makes so many ganks possible kills, reducing it to 10% is gonna hurt early game ganks. Unless very well executed, I'd expect many more early ganks are going to result in merely zoning the enemy. Mid lanes taking wraiths on top of their normal cs are gonna gain more exp. 120 vs 150 exp per clear. Along with 8 extra gold per clear. Changes in jungler items......I'm not even going to start on that. Or am I? Guess Doran's blade can be used now. With the lowered price you can add a pot at start. Not sure how the reduced AD will play out. Reduced cost for the Brutalizer is attractive, can get another ward or some more pots for those 80 gold. Lowered dmg on [[smite]] along with increased hp/dmg on jungle monsters is going to hurt early game. Guess you're going to use that pot you can now buy with Doran's to make sure you don't die when taking your second buff. Note: Removing [[Revive]] from SR sucks. No more glass cannon [[Karthus]] ..... :D[/quote]