Jungle Nation - Jungling Strategy Talk

[quote=Bioalchemist]watching PBE play with newest patch including the new jungle 'camp'. ahri still strong as hell though playstyle slightly altered. runaan's still sucks dick. sight system is interesting for sure but don't think it will change gameplay quite as dramatically as i thought. i think it will actually make things safer for junglers at low elo when your lanes don't tell you where wards are. as you said there will be more jungle farming..so i also agree that more farm/gold dependent junglers will have more of a chance. pretty excited for season 4. nasus visual upgrade is too stronk. love it. trying to get a feel for the masteries changes now.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender][quote=C4 Lasty] [quote=YayaFTW] [quote=Vynertje] It is scary indeed, but her clear speed is the main problem because she cannot proc her own passive. [/quote] Is it stupid to get a madred on her instead of a spirit item? I mean if she solves the clear speed problem, she's literally a ganking monster. Her allies proc her passive during ganks, her kit is phenomenal aswell. [/quote] I know one decent Leona jungle, he builds Ancient Golem. Leona is alright her clear is pretty crappy its like Shen jungle, strong ganks but she doesn't scale all that well because she can't farm. I'd rather play Shen. [/quote] Leona gone wild?[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]i dont know if youve touched on it yet but how do you think rengar is going to do in the new jungle?[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]I am not 100% on Rengar's potential rework. I hope he'll be good as he's a lot of fun to play. His clear has never been great and I'm not sure which jungle item will end up being the best on him. I'll definitely test it out once Season 4 drops. When Season 4 hits I'm going to play 10 or so games on a bunch of different junglers just to figure out who is OP. My list to try: Hecarim Shyvana Khazix Kayle Zed Nautilus Rengar Skarner Jarvan Once I get 2-3 that I think are really strong and I have a good idea of what to build I'll jump into ranked. Remember guys Saturday will be episode 5 of the show so if y'all want to post questions I'll try to save time for the end to answer them w/ a shout-out![/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist][quote=C4 Lasty] When Season 4 hits I'm going to play 10 or so games on a bunch of different junglers just to figure out who is OP. My list to try: Hecarim Shyvana Khazix Kayle Zed Nautilus Rengar Skarner Jarvan [/quote] i will be eagerly awaiting your evaluation, especially nauti and heci.[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]I have a feeling that Hecarim and Naut will be better in Season 4 than they currently are now. Not sure what tier they'll fall into but anything will be an improvement from their current state.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Lasty, do you think the masteries changes will force [[Jarvan IV]], [[Vi]] and [[Nocturne]], etc into a more tanky setup instead of going nearly all the way down offense? On a sidenote, the %pen change really hurts J4 and VI I feel.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]h4xdefender runs 9/21/0 on jarvan already as far as I know from his guide.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I was under the influence that all those junglers ran 19-21 points in offense o.o[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=C4 Lasty] I have a feeling that Hecarim and Naut will be better in Season 4 than they currently are now. Not sure what tier they'll fall into but anything will be an improvement from their current state. [/quote] woo my two favorite junglers are gonna get better hopefully also i run 21/9/0 on nocturne and vi and i dont feel too squishie at all, in fact if i go 9/21 i feel like i dont do enough damage[/quote]