Jungler's: Why must people hate on us?

[quote=DuffTime]Yeap.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Want to gank a lane to relieve pressure because they've been pushing too hard and getting killed a lot? GL with that, bad players who refuse to switch to the defensive or who push their lane too hard assuming their jungler is this amazing creature that can gank under turrets at will, often lead to the jungler being underfarmed/fed. Junglers who never leave their jungle even though opportunities present themselves wonder why their mid game capability has gone to shit are bad. Junglers who invest more than 5 to 10 seconds waiting for a gank to present itself in a lane, are wasting time they could be clearing. From what I've heard and or read there are 2 types of preferred junglers in the meta. Those who can counter jungle well, and those who are all about the ganks. Sustain junglers like Fiddle/WW aren't as strong because they no longer substitute speed of a jungler for sustain in the jungle. The creep camps are easy to clear, they re-spawn in a timely manner and give variable rewards. Being durable and fast beats out slower more deliberate junglers like those aforementioned. I could be wrong though....[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Counter jungling is not a quality you look for in a jungler. It's just something you do quickly when you see a gank go down and there's no other way to punish. AKA, it's -something- to do to take the sting out of enemy actions, although it's not like a devastating hit, so you don't want to plan too heavily for it.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Some champs are just naturally good at it. So though it's not a quality to look for, it's like finding a girl who has an amazing rack and gives great head to boot.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Lols. Anyway the best junglers right now are the ones who can gank the most often, or the ones who can gank the best.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=DuffTime] Lols. Anyway the best junglers right now are the ones who can gank the most often, or the ones who can gank the best. [/quote] Shyvana disaggrees.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I'm sorry? How do you consider? I'm about 8,000,000% sure Shyvanna IS one of the champions I was mentioning.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I'm 8,000,001% sure that charizard was one of the champs to which you were referring[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Shyvanna is Charizard in dragon form o:[/quote]

[quote=Phoenix0000ff]At OP Bads just want to get better at blame not the game so if it's all the same don't go insane from the pains of the lame. Just maintain the skills of your brain and overtime fame you'll attain. Also Shyvanna ganks alright. She's fast.[/quote]