Just surrender, Damnit. You're annoying as hell.

[quote=Devilesse][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] In ranked games I instantly hate people who say "I never surrender in ranked games"...This is like 1200 ELO I mean I'm nothing special, it's nothing special to lose around that rating....I'd expect that mentality at maybe 2k rating...It's really upsetting. "Anything can happen" I agree, anything can happen, but the liklihood as a game progresses for a team who is in the shitter, to come back requires some pretty odd things to happen. [/quote] People take their ELO verrrryyyy seriously. O.O[/quote]

[quote=Larrious]Had one of these today. we had a karma that fed and wouldnt stop insulting everyone and complaining that our team sucked before the creep wave spawned. Granted the jungle shen, was uhh special. So yeah bitches be crazy.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Xaioli] Nope. Never give up. Come backs can always happen [/quote] This, this, a thousand times this. I had a match not too long ago. Our Morgana and Jax bottom lane fed a Vayne to legendary within 10 minutes, Brand was losing mid (even after many ganks by me) and top was losing on farm. Morgana ended up 1/11 or something. We won that game. I know, some idiots can't organise a team to save their life. That's why you need to do it for them. For example, not too long ago a friend and I were in a match where we got decimated in every team fight. The score was like ~35/20 and there was no foreseeable way of coming back. We both told the team not to force a team fight, and ward the map and try and catch them off guard. After the two of us warding kind of well, and a couple of good ganks coming off at the hands of our team, we won that match. It was ~60m too. I don't "never surrender", just I barely surrender. There's no reason to forfeit when you actually have a chance of winning...[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK][quote=Xaioli] Nope. Never give up. Come backs can always happen [/quote] Exactly. Like if it something where everyone is 0-20 and we are obviously not gonna have any chance, then maybe. But I've won plenty of games where it was 4v5, 3v5, a few where we had like no turrets, our nexus was exposed and getting hit, and we get ourselves together, ace and push to win. It happens, and when it does it is SO exhilarating and fun, that I don't like to surrender usually.[/quote]

[quote=Devilesse][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] [quote=Xaioli] Nope. Never give up. Come backs can always happen [/quote] Exactly. Like if it something where everyone is 0-20 and we are obviously not gonna have any chance, then maybe. But I've won plenty of games where it was 4v5, 3v5, a few where we had like no turrets, our nexus was exposed and getting hit, and we get ourselves together, ace and push to win. It happens, and when it does it is SO exhilarating and fun, that I don't like to surrender usually. [/quote] I've had plenty of matches like this myself where I feel my team was losing, but I trusted in the competent players I was rolling with so I understand this notion a lot. But what I'm talking about in this thread is about the matches with incompetent people who refuse to pull it togethe; The completely unhelpable, stupid folk. IE, the people to you tell them to stick together during team fights late game, and they want to juggernaut a 1v4 and everyone gets picked off one by one by trying to go solo. Feeders, and gung ho type dumbies.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]I addressed that in my post. If they can't play correctly, tell them how to play. Instead of going "OMG UDYR Y U SO BAD?" say "Udyr, we have to stick as a group and X!" when X could be, for example, force a team fight.[/quote]

[quote=Devilesse][quote=Xenasis] I addressed that in my post. If they can't play correctly, tell them how to play. Instead of going "OMG UDYR Y U SO BAD?" say "Udyr, we have to stick as a group and X!" when X could be, for example, force a team fight. [/quote] I usually do, but it's like the proverbial saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". -Mid Game- Me: Wait until we're together, some are MIA in the jungle, and they're likely to come in from the sides and gank you at mid. Pantheon: SPARTAAAA! *gets confronted* Me: I told you they were going to do that, come back now? Try not to die. Pantheon: I got this, SPARTA!!!! *1v4 dies* Me: *facepalm* Unfortunately, some players are completely content with sticking to stupid.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]yea when there is no hope like that, I may surrender too ^^[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Devilesse] -Mid Game- Me: Wait until we're together, some are MIA in the jungle, and they're likely to come in from the sides and gank you at mid. Pantheon: SPARTAAAA! *gets confronted* Me: I told you they were going to do that, come back now? Try not to die. Pantheon: I got this, SPARTA!!!! *1v4 dies* Me: *facepalm* Unfortunately, some players are completely content with sticking to stupid. [/quote] Unfortunately so. However, that's the ABSOLUTE minority. I highly doubt that situation has happened in a game, where you thoroughly explained the situation or whatever. I've never had a situation where, after explaining something to a teammate, they continue to do the complete opposite of what I suggested. Tell people something enough times and they will do it![/quote]

[quote=Devilesse][quote=Xenasis] [quote=Devilesse] -Mid Game- Me: Wait until we're together, some are MIA in the jungle, and they're likely to come in from the sides and gank you at mid. Pantheon: SPARTAAAA! *gets confronted* Me: I told you they were going to do that, come back now? Try not to die. Pantheon: I got this, SPARTA!!!! *1v4 dies* Me: *facepalm* Unfortunately, some players are completely content with sticking to stupid. [/quote] Unfortunately so. However, that's the ABSOLUTE minority. I highly doubt that situation has happened in a game, where you thoroughly explained the situation or whatever. Tell people something enough times and they will do it! [/quote] I'm assuming you've been highly fortunate to have not had that many bad players come into your parties. I meet all types of people like what I described on a regular basis, and what's worse is, they usually come in pairs. *shudders*[/quote]