Metagame.

[quote=Freddy Shopan]I tend to group Orianna with people like... Nidalee and Aniva (waaaaaallllllzzzzz). Really hard to play, but very strong if played at the absolute highest level.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport][quote=Xenasis] Did you read ANY of my post?... Oh, and Rank 5 attack isn't really what you should be maxing first. R > W > Q > E. [color=#ffff00]And? First and foremost, your Q is what will hit people most. That's a given. It's irrelevant what you max first because at low levels, constant Attack hits are will always outsum the damage Dissonance hits will deal. And when you start maxing Q, damage just builds up more.[/color] If you're talking about balance for high elo, why was she not first pick/ban for every match in the IEM?... She hasn't got more poke than Brand does, since Brand's is harder to avoid. The only thing she does better than Brand is utility, and her CC is only like 1s max. [color=#ffff00]Orianna has safer poke. Her CC is easily to apply. Her CC can be applied MORE OFTEN. 1 second of CC is very strong if you can apply it constantly.[/color] Also, doesn't Annie have her Q on like, a 3s CD? Since both Ws have the same sort of CD, she can't send "that Q + W". [color=#ffff00]Are you seriously comparing Annie's [[Disintergrate]] to Orianna's [[Command: Attack]]? Think about that for a moment...[/color] Seriously though, play Orianna yourself. Try and land EVERY Q and W, it's impossible. Good players can dodge it. She can do it a lot, but they can dodge it a lot. You can mention that stepping further in would allow for easier (but not hit every time) Qs, in that case, why not pick Annie? [color=#ffff00]Again. Referring to high-elo. What you call impossible, those the top players call difficult. When played at that level, Oriannas will do well enough to make the "difficulty" of landing the skill shots irrelevant because skill shots inherently are stronger then normal abilities. That's why many skill-shot champions are viable despite their difficulty. Because Pro players can ignore that difficulty and simple do well.[/color] Orianna is a good champion - but not OP, she does nothing special compared to Annie/Brand/etc. [color=#ffff00]Annie wasn't banned in the IEM if I'm not mistaken... She's been pretty bad as well. Brand is the top in AoE damage. But Orianna is banned quite a lot as well, because after Brand, she's the top skill-shot caster.[/color] [/quote] Post in yellow. Orianna can be confidently labelled as OP when taken to her full potential.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288]Brand just wrecks games if the person is good ... there really can't be a argument about it either.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]I think Xena is crazy... Orianna WAS first ban/pick for every game with an Orianna player.[/quote]

[quote=Atarios]Oriannas just a deadly robo chick. Nuff said.[/quote]