I feel as though you guys aren't even really disagreeing, but getting hung up on opposite concepts.
I think we all know champs like Skarner and Rammus and whatnot are better junglers than Irelia.
The main difference being that Jeffy is stating that anything less than being able to compete with top picks in their respective category, should not be branded "Viable" which I actually fully agree with.
Irelia can jungle, I've done it before, but it's rather suboptimal. When compared to alternatice junglers, there's really no comparing them.
I think we all know champs like Skarner and Rammus and whatnot are better junglers than Irelia.
The main difference being that Jeffy is stating that anything less than being able to compete with top picks in their respective category, should not be branded "Viable" which I actually fully agree with.
Irelia can jungle, I've done it before, but it's rather suboptimal. When compared to alternatice junglers, there's really no comparing them.
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my definition of Viability has always been the innate ability for something to work. Irelia's kit does not make her an unviable jungler, the fact that she is completely outclassed does.
It appears that my definition of outclassed is Jeffy's definition of Viability.
It appears that my definition of outclassed is Jeffy's definition of Viability.
Pretty much :P
And since I'm the type who plays the game to win as opposed to play the game to play a game or have fun, I naturally tend towards Competitive top notch picks = viable xD
And since I'm the type who plays the game to win as opposed to play the game to play a game or have fun, I naturally tend towards Competitive top notch picks = viable xD
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makes sense.
the literal definition of viable is "having a reasonable chance of succeeding"
so I suppose I should consider thinking about it differently.
the literal definition of viable is "having a reasonable chance of succeeding"
so I suppose I should consider thinking about it differently.
You could define that either way, honestly, even if my personal definition of viable in a jungler sense would be like... Cho, Trundle, Udyr, Shaco, etc.
But on websites like these with newer users and whatnot, I personally prefer to praise only the top notch picks, just in case some newer blood is reading and goes into a ranked game with AP Pantheon or something silly.
But on websites like these with newer users and whatnot, I personally prefer to praise only the top notch picks, just in case some newer blood is reading and goes into a ranked game with AP Pantheon or something silly.
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and trust me when I say, if I ever have to jungle in a game with you...you'd better hope I pick Irelia, Nidalee, or Shen because otherwise I'm going to feed.
Player skill matters too, because no matter how much better of a jungler Skarner is...I'm absolutely terrible with him.