On play styles...

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Crows foot] Maokai just counters the counter-engagement ;p he's too stronk [/quote] Pre-6, not really. His only real disengage skill is a short knockup and it's really short range. Maokai support's strengths are zoning and poking. If you hard initiate, you [b]better win[/b] the trade or you're going to lose way too much.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=Crows foot] Maokai just counters the counter-engagement ;p he's too stronk [/quote] Pre-6, not really. His only real disengage skill is a short knockup and it's really short 700 range. Maokai support's strengths are zoning and poking. If you hard initiate, you [b]better win[/b] the trade or you're going to lose way too much. [/quote] FTFY.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Temzilla] [quote=Lugignaf] [quote=Crows foot] Maokai just counters the counter-engagement ;p he's too stronk [/quote] Pre-6, not really. His only real disengage skill is a short knockup and it's really short 700 range. Maokai support's strengths are zoning and poking. If you hard initiate, you [b]better win[/b] the trade or you're going to lose way too much. [/quote] FTFY. [/quote] Knockup range is 125. The line slow however is 700 range. Don't fix what isn't broken.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=koksei] Leona: Offers more dmg and a stun, not a snare. Due to her passive insane dmg output in general [/quote] incorrect, maokai has more damage potential and he doesn't rely on landing on top of opponent to deal his damage. His [[arcane advance]] is a cast rather than skillshot, his [[sappling toss]] is more consistent damage and good harass. The only think he really lacks compared to leona is a hard stun, even then his damage output is higher[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I thought we were supposed to be talking about playstyles, not Maokai's viability? *mod glare*[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]We're talking about playstyles of Maokai though! *nervous chuckle* Anyway, like I said earlier. I tend to prefer tanky people. I tried playing Sivir once(it was solo queue because none of my friends were on) and I did great! Until end game that is. I was fed pretty well. 2v1'd Nunu+Fiddles just for a perspective on how fed I was. I saw their Anivia and I said to myself "I can kill that bird!" and then she turned and almost 2shot me... I ran for my life. If I was another tanky person like, Jarmander, Meow-kai or, Naut-abyss, I probably would have went in for the kill.[/quote]

[quote=Crazy Smurf]- Can I steal like a boss? Yes. - Can I go in and just troll out? Yes. - Tons of Damage? Yes.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Crazy Smurf] - Can I steal like a boss? Yes. - Can I go in and just troll out? Yes. - Tons of Damage? Yes. [/quote] Evelyn, right?[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Has to be trundle[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Crazy Smurf] - Can I life steal like a boss? Yes. - Can I go in and just troll out? Yes. - Tons of Damage? Yes. [/quote] Guys, it's crazy Smurf, he's like, in love with vlad irl. He's obviously talking about vlad.[/quote]