Udyr. A few questions.

[quote=Babit]So I just got udyr last night, and I have some general questions. Tiger or Pheonix? Jungle? What items do you build on him normally? Wits end/wriggles? or more dps or just w/e the situation calls?[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]have you checked any guides on him? I would recommend this guide: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/who-is-your-jungler-and-what-does-he-do-114118?page=1 but it seems the content was deleted somehow. Basically tiger udyr has slower jungle but better ganks and single target burst Pheonix udyr has faster jungle and more utility in teamfights It's really just preference[/quote]

[quote=VoiD]Tanky DPS - Tiger Tank - Phoenix I prefer tiger udyr, because it deals more damage overall but phoenix jungle is faster. Jungle with him, with the recent turtle nerf he isn't that good of a laner anymore. Get cloth armor, a ward, and health pots. I usually ward the enemy jungle and if you have someone with CV ask for him to cv their jungle to find out their starting route. If the enemy is starting at blue: Wolves -> Enemy Wraiths (smite the blue one if you feel unsafe) -> Enemy small golems -> Your Wraiths -> Wolves -> Small Golem. If enemy is starting at small golem: Start at the enemy blue, and udyr doesnt need leash with the right runes. Enemy blue -> enemy wolves -> small golem -> wraiths -> wolves. If the enemy is starting at wraiths: Start at your blue. Blue as fastest you can, ask for a good leash if you dont wanna waste smite. -> ememy small golem -> your wolves -> wraiths -> small golem. Runes (tiger): 3x Attack speed marks 6x Armor Pen marks 9x Armor Yellow 9x Attack speed blue 3x Armor pen Items: 1. Wriggles 2. boots 3. HoG 4. Upgrade boots (perferably merc threads) 5. Frozen Mallet 6. Atma 7. Rest situational. Hope this helped, [color=#ff0080]+Rep[/color] if I did please ^_^ good luck.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Since the nerfs, Jungle Udyr isn't quite as strong. Lanedyr is very strong as well. TheRainMan goes Tiger Udyr, personally I prefer Phoenix if i'm pushing/can't really trust your team and tiger if you can, or if you want damage you can go tiger. Phoenix is stronger at jungling now, however.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Jungle Udyr hasn't changed at all. His laning was hit pretty badly though. I'd post my skilling/runes/items ect but, It's all dependent on how that game is going.[/quote]

[quote=coonas]I've been trying to test new tactics after the recent nerf and found that going 3x phoenix for early game then switching to tiger after that gives you great jungling early and good damage lategame. The problem is that tiger/turtle suffers since i usually max tiger pretty quick. Byt i'd recommend you try it just to get a feeling. i find it working good but midgame dmg obviously drops abit.[/quote]