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[quote=SixSonatas][quote=Trojan995] I agree with sixsonatas about the taunt not being OP, but not for the same reasons. [b]Rammus is OP because out of the jungle he can speed up to incredible MS.[/b], and unless you're turret hugging both you AND your lane partner will be knocked up + slowed, then 1 of you will be taunted. His taunt alone is no worse than taric's dazzle or sion's cryptic gaze. [b]The major problem was his incredible all-around initiate/chase/CC skill.[/b] They won't change his taunt because even if they nerfed him so hard his powerball made him slower, he'd still have an ace in the hole as a great anti-carry. Basically all he needs to do to get focused is taunt the carry. Which is why Udyr is such a great tank: bear stance at the enemy carry, turtle stance and watch as the enemies drop like flies because they were too stupid to focus the enemy carry. [/quote] Wards? Problem solved. QSS? Problem solved. I already mentioned how to counter Rammus which is why he's not OP =_=[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=SixSonatas] Wards? Problem solved. QSS? Problem solved. I already mentioned how to counter Rammus which is why he's not OP =_= [/quote] Unless you start with a very cheap item or recall very early, usually rammus can get in a gank before you can recall to buy a ward. Same with QSS, except you can't get that until much later in the game. So yes, those are very useful counters, but they're soft counters and can't be used until you've got some gold under your belt.[/quote]

[quote=Visfarix]If rammus is ganking you at level 4-5, then it probably means you're extending past the halfway mark of your lane, AND YOU NEED TO STOP OVEREXTENDING. Otherwise his 1.0-2.0 second taunt should still be survivable. And guess what? They just nerfed his powerball speed which was one of the things that made Rammus so good at ganking pre-level 6! If you're so worried about his 3 second taunt after level 9 then you really should prioritize getting either merc treads or a QSS as your 1st, 2nd or 3rd item seeing as they are powerful and easily obtainable items, even if they are a tad expensive. As much as I don't like Rammus's 3 second taunt, I starting to think all this QQ about stupid taunt is a bit much.[/quote]

[quote=Mrs Warboys]I find the problem with the taunt is that he has 3 seconds to drag you back into a bunch of enemies. It's like a stun, which damages you and works similar to Singed's fling. If it was a 3 second stun, I don't think anyone would complain.[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru]Wheres my nerf on Shen 2,5 AoE taunt and the Fear from fiddle? And the nerf to Yi's +armor while in meditate D;?[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]still remember that the person that taunts takes dmg![/quote]

[quote=Gravefury]OMGGGGGGGGG RYZE!!! He was my first main and I still play him and do good I can't wait!![/quote]

[quote=caucheka][quote=PotatisFarfar] still remember that the person that taunts takes dmg! [/quote] we're talking about the anti dps tank. not to mention that rammus has [[defensive ball curl]] and should grab a [[thornmail]][/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]My friend made a good point about this patch (and others) - Riot keeps taking hits at support champions because other roles keep abusing these great support items. I can understand nerfing frozen heart, but spirit visage is pushing it and soul shroud is just way over the line. When was the last time you saw a non-support grab a soul shroud? They took out innervating locket entirely (which was making tanky DPS champions OP) and already hurt spirit visage. When are they going to make something that benefit support roles and ONLY support roles so my favorite Sona is viable again (without tanky DPS being supreme rulers)?[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]@Caucheka Yeah i know it doesn't make a huge deal, but still u still take dmg. @Trojan Amen![/quote]