Off-meta is often the best thing to "refresh" our pleasure to play league once in a while even if it is often a high risk high reward concept with medium win rates.
Concerning double jungler there was an interesting discussion about it quite recently : Double jungle discussion
Adding my own concept (maybe nothing new but still my idea without checking if someone else put it somewhere already) :
Sion top, Ziggs mid, Tristana ADC, Bard sup and Shaco or Rammus jungle; all with Demolish and lots of rotations with Bard Magical Journey.
= ALL YOUR TOWERS BELONG TO US !
Concerning double jungler there was an interesting discussion about it quite recently : Double jungle discussion
Adding my own concept (maybe nothing new but still my idea without checking if someone else put it somewhere already) :
Sion top, Ziggs mid, Tristana ADC, Bard sup and Shaco or Rammus jungle; all with Demolish and lots of rotations with Bard Magical Journey.= ALL YOUR TOWERS BELONG TO US !
My 3 rules of gaming:
1. If your game starts to feel too much like work, play a different game.
2. Have fun
3. If your idea of having fun is ruining somebody else's fun, find a different way to have fun.
1. If your game starts to feel too much like work, play a different game.
2. Have fun
3. If your idea of having fun is ruining somebody else's fun, find a different way to have fun.
I wish I had Nautilus, he's a good support but also a ton of viability in Jungle and Top Lane which is fun to play despite being off-meta
Noob Zilean, Rammus and Kled trio main that loves to cause mischeif, mostly plays mid, top or support (practising Jungle). Also play Veigar, Vel'Koz, Thresh, Amumu, Fizz and Tahm Kench. I also dabble in random heroes that hit the free rotation that pique my interest.
Going mid as a support with ignite is more fun and effective than I ever imagined!
Going mid as a support with ignite is more fun and effective than I ever imagined!
The_Nameless_Bard, you are a hero and a scholar keep the off-meta dream alive!
Miss Maw, I know you mostly play support, but that you also Jungle. How would you organize a team that featured duo Jungle?
I encourage anybody who has an opinion to answer that, by the way.
I think the duo jungle could be Shyvana with Annie support (for the easy point and click CC on ganks). You'd want an ADC who could hold their own in a 1v2 lane... Caitlyn comes to mind. Some tanky top laner like Shen or Singed... and maybe a mixed damage mid lane? Maybe Corki or Kayle. Maybe the jungler support could be Bard or even Ivern! I wonder if it could work...
Miss Maw, I know you mostly play support, but that you also Jungle. How would you organize a team that featured duo Jungle?
I encourage anybody who has an opinion to answer that, by the way.
I think the duo jungle could be
Shyvana with Annie support (for the easy point and click CC on ganks). You'd want an ADC who could hold their own in a 1v2 lane... Caitlyn comes to mind. Some tanky top laner like Shen or Singed... and maybe a mixed damage mid lane? Maybe Corki or Kayle. Maybe the jungler support could be Bard or even Ivern! I wonder if it could work...
My 3 rules of gaming:
1. If your game starts to feel too much like work, play a different game.
2. Have fun
3. If your idea of having fun is ruining somebody else's fun, find a different way to have fun.
1. If your game starts to feel too much like work, play a different game.
2. Have fun
3. If your idea of having fun is ruining somebody else's fun, find a different way to have fun.
Caitlyn will just get jumped on I think. Maybe Ezreal with Kleptomancy or something like that. Or Kindred jungle, which opens up more options for a solo bot laner. (something like a mage with good wave clear, the duo bot will most likely try to rush the turret)EDIT: Also,
Nunu & Willump. Something I hate seeing at the moment. Could clear very fast with Kindred.
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It might seem like a nice, fun idea to you, but double jungle doesn't work. No AD carry can safely 1v2 without getting zoned zoned really badly, especially with how prevalent and strong supports like Alistar or Braum are, for example. This also lets them roam for free and create pressure elsewhere, not to mention that your bot lane turret will go down very, very quickly, as they can dive your AD carry with their jungler in a 1v3. You also don't need help speeding up the jungle clear - strong junglers such as Shyvana or Sejuani clear really quickly already and your second jungler will be severely starved of xp.
Credits go to The_Nameless_Bard for the sig!
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I made this thread hoping to share my favorite off-meta ideas, and to hear ones the rest of you would want to play or see in action someday.
For this first post, there are two that have been on my mind for a while:
The first is Bot lane Draven with Yasuo "Support" (like, the way that Annie or Veigar supports, but still dishes out damage mid and late game). Yasuo can still proc off the Relic shield, help with Draven's already strong trades with the wind wall, and most importantly, can get an easymode ultimate at level six with Draven's Stand Aside!
The other thought I had isn't one of my own: Way back early on (season 2 I think) Team Dignitas played a duo Jungle: Shyvana and Taric (who at the time had a point and click stun). Bottom and top still got their full xp, and Taric stayed far enough away from the camps so that Shyvana would be able to get what she needed. I'm betting Duo jungle could be a thing either to help speed up clears, provide additional CC during ganks, or both (I think Leona's Sunlight procs onto minions... but I don't remember).
What's on your Off-meta wishlist?