Patch 3.5 Notes

[quote=caucheka]i'm upset because you want to make tower diving an appropriate risk, but encourage people to do it. if tower diving becomes too risky, you promote passivity. and then you make turrets stronger against siege minions, which also promotes passivity because it takes longer to down the turret. which means laning phase lasts longer.[/quote]

[quote=DisturbedFox]Towerdiving will still be there, just not as much. Now, in every LCS game, if it's a 2v1 top, you see a lvl 3 dive with a huge creepwave which succeeds most of the time. That is stupid.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]the turret buff happened because it made people play too aggressive, you can still turret dive just not constantly and never once have i got someone down to half hp by using E with ghost and double buff early game, you do know it has a cap at around 100ish with the extra AD you get from ghost, thats not half hp to a lot of people, i mean if you wanted to max E first then maybe youll do half their hp but most people dont max e first on hecarim and the W nerf is weird, not as bad to early as i though other than im used to the old cooldown[/quote]

[quote=caucheka][quote=DillButt64] the turret buff happened because it made people play too aggressive [/quote] being aggressive is good. being passive is not. also, what the fuck is all this 2v1 lane shit? whos the dumbass running a single guy in a 2 man lane?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]^ 95% of pro teams lol[/quote]

[quote=DisturbedFox]Every pro team does that, lol. The point behind it is: if your bot lane is weaker than enemy team's and/or if you have a stronger 1v2, you can go ahead and swap lanes to make it easier.[/quote]

[quote=Aseafy][quote=caucheka] also, what the fuck is all this 2v1 lane shit? whos the dumbass running a single guy in a 2 man lane? [/quote] This is making you look very stupid, I'm sorry. It doesn't happen in solo queue often, but in competitive play it happens like almost every game.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]its not the "dumbass running the solo lane" its the pro players running two people against the solo lane in most cases its adc and support top against the top lane bruiser, the jungler hangs around up there and takes the turret in 3 minutes, with the same thing happening bottom lane and whoever gets it first gets the dragon[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]oh right, people take 'pros' seriously. forgot.[/quote]

[quote=DisturbedFox]So you care about the metagame but you don't care about what pro players do? I can see the logic.[/quote]