Liandry's on Nautilus?

[quote=Skaeling]I usually get a SINGLE offensive item on [[nautilus]], especially when they ignore me because of my tankyness. Most of the time I go for [[liandry's torment]] and I was wondering if there is a better choice ? It seems to me it has amazing synergy with his kit, especially with [[riptide]].[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Yeah, that could definitly work. Obviously, with [[nautilus]] you normall don't want to go for damage, as junglers like [[jarvan IV]], [[amumu]] or [[sejuani]] have better basics for that, but he has very much AoE to apply it. Another idea for an item would be [[iceborn gauntlet]], you gonna drag yourself to the enemy anyway and this item not only adds damage, it also adds huge defense and utility. The downside is, both of these items cost very much for a jungler, especially for a slow clear champ like [[nautilus]].[/quote]

[quote=Skaeling][quote=NicknameMy] Yeah, that could definitly work. Obviously, with [[nautilus]] you normall don't want to go for damage, as junglers like [[jarvan IV]], [[amumu]] or [[sejuani]] have better basics for that, but he has very much AoE to apply it. Another idea for an item would be [[iceborn gauntlet]], you gonna drag yourself to the enemy anyway and this item not only adds damage, it also adds huge defense and utility. The downside is, both of these items cost very much for a jungler, especially for a slow clear champ like [[nautilus]]. [/quote] Nautilus is a pretty fast jungler IMO. I would only get [[liandry's torment]] in lategame. Also i'm pretty sure [[iceborn gauntlet]] is a waste of money on him. I am more interested how it compares to items like [[sunfire cape]] or even a [[rabadon's deathcap]][/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]I'm pretty sure [[Liandry's Torment]] isn't worth it on naut, not to mention expensive as fuck. The cool downs on your spells are too high to make it viable.[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka][[Wit's End]] is a better damage item on him, honestly. It also works well with [[Sunfire Cape]], which is also great on him. But building any damage items on Naut often isn't necessary. Just get really big and tanky, run around in the enemy team and get off lots of CC; your team can generally take care of the rest if they're vaguely competent. [[Iceborn Gauntlet]] wouldn't be very good. Naut doesn't have short enough CDs to proc it often and his base AD just isn't high enough to make those procs particularly valuable. Not to mention that he's already so full of CC that the extra slows wouldn't be as noticeable. Especially if your autoattack target spends most of the time the slow is up snared from your passive anyway.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]wits end or abyssal are the only two offensive items i would get on naut (only one not both) if i even build one[/quote]

[quote=Skaeling][quote=GrandmasterD] I'm pretty sure [[Liandry's Torment]] isn't worth it on naut, not to mention expensive as fuck. The cool downs on your spells are too high to make it viable. [/quote] Well, [[spirit of the ancient golem]] and [[locket of the iron solari]] are kind of core, and you might have 4/6% CDR from masteries, and more from runes. That said W is on a 7 sec CD, AOE CC that doubles [[liandry's torment]]'s passive. [[dredge line]], [[titan's wrath]]+[[staggering blow]] and [[depth charge]] all apply the improved passive.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Hey, not only that, the HP also scales with the shield and his spells don't have a too bad AP ratio either.[/quote]

[quote=Encross]Have you tried [[Nashor's Tooth]]? No? Well, you should. I've gotten [[Liandry's Torment]] in a few really fed solo queues. I was pretty underwhelmed by it.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Why get [[nashor's tooth]] if until 180 AP [[wit's end]] deals more damage, not to mention the magic resistance reduction or the price.[/quote]