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Don't tell me this is a coincidence! I have one more win below the picture. Even the toughest games I managed to turn around with my 300 farm every game :)

Basically, you max Q first. Play careful and use your tornado when creeps get lower on health, try to lower all minions and swoop them all with tornado. At level 5, you should have enough for Blasting Wand, and you can now take down every single mage wave and one shot the melee creeps after a full tornado. EPIC farming.

In teamfights is where you shine, get OP shield on initiators or adc as needed, and CC those tanks and keep them from killing your team. You are still support even though you got AP, so your primary role is to keep your team alive and kicking.

I hope more people try this soon, even though they raged the first few games, after 3 wins in a row, I simply said "check my history" and they were content :P WORTH IT!
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AP Janna has been a thing that works occassionally / in the right situations for a while.

I hate to say it, but a few good games (even in ranked) doesn't make something viable. Voyboy plays Urgot top lane a lot. Does that make it viable? If I win 6 games in a row with full AD Cho'gath in the carry role, does that make it viable? I don't know.

There's a line between "viable" and "just works." I don't think one player's sucess with something can justify a claim to viability. If it works, do it. But your sucess doesn't mean it's "viable."

While the definiton of viable is "capable of working successfully," I think it takes more to count in League. If that makes sense.
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BarbJ wrote:

AP Janna has been a thing that works occassionally / in the right situations for a while.

I hate to say it, but a few good games (even in ranked) doesn't make something viable. Voyboy plays Urgot top lane a lot. Does that make it viable? If I win 6 games in a row with full AD Cho'gath in the carry role, does that make it viable? I don't know.

There's a line between "viable" and "just works." I don't think one player's sucess with something can justify a claim to viability. If it works, do it. But your sucess doesn't mean it's "viable."


What if I state that I was the definite reason my team won, even when they fed we won because of my help with shields and slows and knockups and heal. I had someone who took my midlane and I had to duolane with them to get farm, we still won because after the laning phase I took so many minions I got ahead of everyone else :)
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I could be the reason my team wins a game while I jungle LeBlanc. Does that make it viable? I don't think so. Does 6? If the community collectively wins, let's say a few thousand games, while being the reason for victory, I think that's what makes it viable.

Like I said, there's a line, and you doing well doesn't make it so.
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BarbJ wrote:

I could be the reason my team wins a game while I jungle LeBlanc. Does that make it viable? I don't think so. Does 6? If the community collectively wins, let's say a few thousand games, while being the reason for victory, I think that's what makes it viable.

Like I said, there's a line, and you doing well doesn't make it so.


Viable isn't the same as popular man. Viable is if a certain build simply works well in the current meta. I believe AP Janna could work well in the current meta, she simply has all the tools required to survive, get lots of farm, the occasional kill, help out teammates in ganks and in dragon/baron fights, and simply be useful, even more so than just an AP carry with damage that cannot scratch the off tanks. She brings the CC!
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Let me help! :D

Viable means the following:

Urban Dictionary:
capable of being done with means at hand and circumstances as they are.
or
capable of being done in a practical and useful way

Wikipedia:
Able to live on its own (as for a newborn.)
Able to be done, possible.
In (biology), able to live and develop.
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Meiyjhe wrote:

Let me help! :D

Viable means the following:

Urban Dictionary:
capable of being done with means at hand and circumstances as they are.
or
capable of being done in a practical and useful way

Wikipedia:
Able to live on its own (as for a newborn.)
Able to be done, possible.
In (biology), able to live and develop.


Ty man, that's exactly what I meant :)
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Try playing her bot with locket of the iron solari, i've heard it's pretty gud mang.

But let's look at janna as an AP-champ.
Your kill-potential is low, you have a
75% aoe spell
60% nuke/slow
90% shield
and an ulty that scales with 0,35 AOE heal/second.

That works, definitely.

But her utility of those abilities are really good, if you're AP mid you're not the support - you save clutch tornadoes to cancel amumu-bandages if you're support, if you go AP your role is to deeps then you can't be holding onto your **** through half a teamfight to cancel an ability which needs to be cleared.

imo AP janna is pretty much as viable as AP-soraka, AP-karma, AP xin-zhao(quite strong pre-nerf), AD leblanc, crittlesticks and all the other gimmicky **** out there that works just because people don't know how to play against it. Whereas support janna is a top-tier pick. What i see as the biggest problem on AP-janna is that she doesn't snowball for ****.

edit: to all your haters out there **** YOU, SUPPORT JANNA IS TOP TIER! You just bad yo.
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AP janna has always been viable, shes just not as stupid stronk as she used to be back in season 2 (kind of like battleraka back before she got nerfed... that **** was hilarious)
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