Climbing the ELO Ladder

[quote=Searz][quote=Zeprido] Wither, Xin Zhao thrives with attack speed from [[battle cry]] since it gives him CDR and he can spam [[three talon strike]] and [[audacious charge]] more.[/quote] That doesn't mean it's a flat out counter. Can Nasus keep him away from farming?[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Searz] @Trojan Er.. Are you even very experienced at high level play? I'm not myself and I'm still at higher elo than you. Or is there some resource you know that has info on counters? I've seen none yet. [/quote] I watch a lot of livestreams... haha That's the extent of my ranked experience (aside from something like 7 or 8 games in ranked), but I've played enough normal games that I've seen which champions fail/wreck against which. After that, the rest is theory.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Let's try to focus on things we hear from high elo ppl.[/quote]

[quote=Miraisen]Don't know if this has its place here, but what I've done mostly is instantly tell the people that if they have vent or skype, we should get on and cooperate. I've done that 4 times so far in solo queue, and end up usually with one or two people on vocal chat with me. We then try and lane together, or just communicate a lot, and so far it's worked pretty well. I've only done few ranked games for now, but they've gone pretty well so far doing this.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]@Trojan and @Miraisen - Suggestions have been updated.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]I think it's a good idea to find, not only which champions counter others, but also what items and summoner spells counter certain situations. Snares or stuns of basically any kind severely counter melee champions. Cleanse, Quicksilver Sash, and Banshee's Veil (also champion shields) counter disables.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]Based on my expiriences I think the #1 way to carry yourself to higher ELO is leadership and knowledge. You don't necessarily need to play a carry to carry your team. You can carry your team mentally with good guidance and smart calls. A firm knowledge of the game knowing when to drag, baron, fight, etc is going to be your best bet to climb the ladder provided your team cooperates. You don't even have to be a very skilled player, just a very smart one. Jebus posted this link in another thread and at the time I was in high 1200s. Upon reading that thread I won 5-6 games in a row and I have now reached my goal and am sitting at 1402. Should really read it. http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=452151 Btw the only counter pick I know is that Veigar counters lots of AP :P... As long as that AP does not include Kassadin.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=EvilDice] Based on my expiriences I think the #1 way to carry yourself to higher ELO is leadership and knowledge. You don't necessarily need to play a carry to carry your team. You can carry your team mentally with good guidance and smart calls. A firm knowledge of the game knowing when to drag, baron, fight, etc is going to be your best bet to climb the ladder provided your team cooperates. You don't even have to be a very skilled player, just a very smart one. Jebus posted this link in another thread and at the time I was in high 1200s. Upon reading that thread I won 5-6 games in a row and I have now reached my goal and am sitting at 1402. Should really read it. http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=452151 Btw the only counter pick I know is that Veigar counters lots of AP :P... As long as that AP does not include Kassadin. [/quote] he kinda counters AP, but he's garbage so it's pointless.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]Veigar garbage? How dare you :([/quote]

[quote=animorte]Veigar is actually really good when you play him right. I do just fine with him. I remember playing mid against a Veigar and I was all up in his face to keep him from farming and getting that extra AP per kill. He only had half the minion kills of our bottom laners and he still facerolled half my team. He has a great stun (if you know how to use it) and excellent damage. You might think he is garbage because you suck with him or you know how to counter him.[/quote]