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Dumb scaling is dumb. (Or; why dont ability...

Creator: Opaque_Shadow June 2, 2012 10:27pm
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AP Nasus is actually pretty broken. His ult is ******edly powerful. Let a Nasus farm his *** off alone for about 10 minutes and then take your whole team after him. Hard as F*** to kill!

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Lol, this^

It actually annoys me a bit when some of the newer AD champions (ranged and melee) have no AP scaling to speak of. I love it when champions like Panth and Nocturne have one ability that scales with AP. It makes any extra AP you get (Lulu, WotA, Baron, Sheen) actually useful.

EXACTLY! :D

I MUCH prefer those champions that have some scaling versatility because I love items like Trinity Force.
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I find that these weird scaleings acctualy open up more options for troll builds. GP with lich bane and 500 AP .... Eat an orange for half HP Ulti for penta .... Anyway it's more for balance and opening up more build options.
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I find that these weird scaleings acctualy open up more options for troll builds. GP with lich bane and 500 AP .... Eat an orange for half HP Ulti for penta .... Anyway it's more for balance and opening up more build options.


when gp could deny i built 5 gunblades. his deny did 1k damage and he would heal it with spellvamp.
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caucheka wrote:



when gp could deny i built 5 gunblades. his deny did 1k damage and he would heal it with spellvamp.


Or you're like 900 damage Riposte with 6 deathcap Fiora on ARAB. Good times, good times.

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5 deathcaps and a lichbane

the bane of all carries.
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CBA to read other pages so my post will probably be a repeat

But with your example of Rammus, yes it is for balance. It helps balance because Rammus is played TANKY. He isn't going to do a ton of damage. If you decide to build him differently, you can take AP rammus as an alternative, but he was envisioned by RIOT to be played tanky, so the ratios are high because AP on Rammus causes you to lose out on important items. But as duff said RoA/Rylais (Rylais is IMO slightly better, dat slow) are great items to get you some damage and tankyness.
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If all champs that get ad anyways had abilitys that scaled off ad than they would be overpowered.Ap Tristana and Ap kogmaw are already viable so imagine if they did the same damage with their spells as they do now when building ap and also being able to do tonnes of damage with auto attacks.OP!
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I think the only ad-carry which actually needs a little help at ad-ratios is Tristana. Her E and ult should scale with bonus AD, while still scaling with AP. Her E should scale with her passive aswell. This way she would have the harass to mach champs like Graves or Vayne. For better looks:

Draw a Bead: Now increases the range of Explosive Shot by 6 per level.
Explosive Shot: Now has a 0.5 bonus AD ratio at the active.
Buster Shot: Now has a 0.8 bonus AD ratio.

If you think that is too much, look at Graves:
Buckshot vs Explosive Shot
Quickdraw vs Rapid Fire
Collateral Damage vs Buster Shot
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Not sure if trolling. Trying to make Trist OP?

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