Depends on the situation. Personally I like getting a Youmuu's so getting % ArP after that would just be inefficient so I follow it up with a Black Cleaver if I do need any extra ArP. Although, if you don't find any use in Youmuu's on Yi, getting a Black Cleaver given the situation that the enemy team is stacking little to no armor sounds reasonable. If they get a ****load of armor gogo Last Whisper.
Since Yi usually runs Youmuu's/Stark's or some variant of it, I'd go with Cleaver instead of LW. If you happen to not be running Youmuu's/Stark's, then sure, grab Ghostblade. As B-Wong said, any flat ArP you already have makes LW more inefficient.
Last whisper is situational, and is best the enemy is stacking armor.
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Even if they're stacking armor Ghostblade (and flat ArP) is usually best on melee carries.
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For most melee carries, yes. But on ranged carries LW is usually better.
Stark's is kind of a meh item tho.. The only area it shines in is sustained pushes.
Stark's is kind of a meh item tho.. The only area it shines in is sustained pushes.
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youmu + runes + stark + BC + masteries = 116 arp
youmu + runes + stark + masteries = 71 arp
the enemy need to have at least 300 armor to make the arp from last whisper worth it and i dont talk about the AD/AS
its even more for champs with built in flat arp like Olaf
dont forget the %arp is after the flat so its worth only if
- the enemy have VERY heavy armor
- you have no flat arp items at all, then runes + masteries give you nice dmg early/mid and last whisper end game
- you have % armor pen with skills , like urgot or jarvan which naturaly reduce the effectivness of flat arp
ps : i think its worth writing a guide on spell&armor penetration very few ppl are aware of how it work
youmu + runes + stark + masteries = 71 arp
the enemy need to have at least 300 armor to make the arp from last whisper worth it and i dont talk about the AD/AS
its even more for champs with built in flat arp like Olaf
dont forget the %arp is after the flat so its worth only if
- the enemy have VERY heavy armor
- you have no flat arp items at all, then runes + masteries give you nice dmg early/mid and last whisper end game
- you have % armor pen with skills , like urgot or jarvan which naturaly reduce the effectivness of flat arp
ps : i think its worth writing a guide on spell&armor penetration very few ppl are aware of how it work
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youmu + runes + stark + BC + masteries = 116 arp
youmu + runes + stark + masteries = 71 arp
the enemy need to have at least 300 armor to make the arp from last whisper worth it and i dont talk about the AD/AS
Stark has a lot of HP reg. Because of that it's very ineffective in terms of damage per second and thus a kinda bad carry item... Don't get it on carries.
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dont forget the %arp is after the flat so its worth only if
- the enemy have VERY heavy armor
- you have no flat arp items at all, then runes + masteries give you nice dmg early/mid and last whisper end game
- you have % armor pen with skills , like urgot or jarvan which naturaly reduce the effectivness of flat arp
ps : i think its worth writing a guide on spell&armor penetration very few ppl are aware of how it work
- the enemy have VERY heavy armor
- you have no flat arp items at all, then runes + masteries give you nice dmg early/mid and last whisper end game
- you have % armor pen with skills , like urgot or jarvan which naturaly reduce the effectivness of flat arp
ps : i think its worth writing a guide on spell&armor penetration very few ppl are aware of how it work
Urgot and Jarvan both have %armor reduction and it does not reduce the effectiveness of flat ArP. ALL kinds of penetration/reduction are less effective with %penetration.
We should have a guide on this, but you don't know the mechanics so don't write one..
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