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Creator: JBuckowskiEsq October 6, 2011 4:32am
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Oh, my bad. Just a little tired.
Still, try it out and see the difference.

I'll go sleep now. Byebye.
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Ciao.
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3:55 with my preferred set up.

3:59 with the AD quints and no attack speed reds, and I almost died on red lizard.

I was pretty healthy on my clear with my runes, about half HP.
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^ FYI Searz.
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DuffTime wrote:

3:55 with my preferred set up.

3:59 with the AD quints and no attack speed reds, and I almost died on red lizard.

HP at the end?

I'll try doing the same (since I own all those runes).
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I didn't check but I was a good 200 HP higher with my runes I believe.
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14/12/4 masteries.
Vamp Scepter start.
No leash.

AD quints+ArP marks: 03:47 clear time. ~350HP at the end, down to ~150HP at lizard.

10%AS+15ArP: 03:50 clear time. ~250HP at the end, down to ~80HP at lizard.


I'm pretty sure you're doing something strange since you're getting those results.
Also, both my times are better than yours :P

Funny thing with AD quints: you have to smite early to have it up in time for Lizard (since you're faster with AD quints), otherwise you'll die waiting for it.



About your masteries.
They're terribly inefficient. You should be running 18/12/0 or 16/0/14 instead.
(not getting MrP because your only magic damage is your ult and getting a small boost to your ult damage is close to useless)

Jungle results with those masteries:

18/12/0: 03:44 clear time. ~380HP at the end, down to ~150HP at lizard.

I was gonna do 16/0/14 and 1/8/21 masteries too, but they don't reduce enough damage early on and can't clear without a leash, but I'm pretty sure they're both faster than (or equal to) 14/12/4 with a leash.
I'd guess they're at ~03:40 for 16/0/14 and ~03:50 for 1/8/21.
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14/13/3, not 14/12/4 :P

I dunno how you came out on the other end with the numbers you did, but using my page I had a faster and healthier clear time with my preferred set up :P

The 3 points into good hands is just too good to justify not taking with the new incredibly long respawn timers. (My opinion)

The spell pen is certainly better than 1% attack speed, don't kid yourself lol.
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DuffTime wrote:

14/13/3, not 14/12/4 :P

All in all the ones I used reduces less damage than the ones you did (0.5 less), so that would only make it worse for me (while I got both high HP and faster times than you).
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I dunno how you came out on the other end with the numbers you did, but using my page I had a faster and healthier clear time with my preferred set up :P

You must've made a mistake with the AD setup.

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The spell pen is certainly better than 1% attack speed, don't kid yourself lol.

You deal very little magic damage and 0.75% CDR is not better than 1% AS.
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1% AS is not going to do more than the 15% mag pen.

I used AD quints, full ArP reds, and everything else I used was my standard set up.

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