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Mpen quints on mid laners

Creator: PsiGuard June 29, 2012 11:06pm
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Assuming no one already mentioned this it should be noted that for Lux in particular her passive scales with MPen but not with AP.
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If its someone who doesn't need scaling (high base damage) then yeah you should be alright.

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These reds are Rioters you know...

The same ones that brought you fun concepts such as Shen and Nautilus.
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DuffTime wrote:



These reds are Rioters you know...

The same ones that brought you fun concepts such as Shen and Nautilus.

LoL...
****ing nautilus...


Btw, Lux with pen reds and 2 pen quints, and haunting guise... OP!
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I get no thanks for the math I did? Sucks to be me :X
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Now there's the mathcrafters. I was wondering where you guys were lurking (sorry I haven't checked the thread in a couple days). Thanks for the responses everyone, I think I'm starting to see it.

In the case of Illumination (which as Luther pointed out, no one has calculated in), Lux gets a small bonus from mPen and not AP quints unlike most AP mids. According to lifebaka, her ultimate and early-mid game damage will rise a little with mPen assuming the enemy sticks with their base 30 MR. A level 6 Lux with that hits an enemy laner with a full combo including passive procs should (if I understand your math correctly) get a bit more damage out of it than one with 15 more AP instead.

Considering the early game advantages and the likelihood of an enemy AP having more than 30 MR, I think it's safe to say that mPen quints are not so optimal for most APs, especially those with high scalings. They could probably work on Lux in certain scenarios, but in most cases it's simpler to just stick with the AP quints as they're less dependent on the enemy MR and stage of the game.

In my own games I will probably be using MS quints on Lux since I get a lot of my damage from passive procs and autoattacks early game anyway. It's mid and late game that I'd rather rune for, so MS seems to be the best option in my eyes.

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Yeap your conclusions seem good.
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I helped with the good conclusions! Wait.............................................. (100000000 ...s later) I think I did percent MPen... Not flat.......
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derp :)
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I think Magic pen quints are fun to roll with though.
It's really funny if you're playing Kassadin for example
and you're laning against an Anivia and you use your Q
on them. They usually lose such a great amount of health,
if they've only got their base resistances.
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