New Amumu masteries

[quote=Freddy Shopan]with new jungle: Whatever you friggin want.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]And now? What route should [[amumu]] go? The standard wolves->golem->wraiths->wolves->lizard->golems route or something different? Or could he jungle based on his [[tantrum]] through the small camps, while getting the golem at lvl 2? Something like wraiths->wolves->golem->wraiths->lizard->golems? BTW: The whole jungle rework was a massive nerf to [[amumu]]. His only thing of sustain, pots, are nerfed hard and overall his clear has been nerfed. Maybe he will be no longer banned at low elo xD. Also, his ganking power got nerfed by the rework. I think, they should add more base dmg to [[despair]]. And he should deal the higher amount of dmg from flat or percentage. That would make his jungling now easier and allow him, to use [[despair]] against the new weak creeps. Like: Nearby enemies take the higher amount of magic dmg from 12/16/20/24/28(+0.25 of AP) or 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5(+0.01 of AP(i never really liked the ratio in his old form^^)) % of their maximum health each second. That would also nerf a little bit of his lategame power. And make AP on [[Amumu]] more viable.^^ Also, the nerf on the base of the % is needed at [[amumu]], because as tank, he deals too much dmg. Nearly the same for [[tantrum]], except the earlygame dmg is high enough, so only the scaling should be reduced: 75 / 85 / 95 / 105 / 115 (+0.75 per ability power)[/quote]

[quote=Searz]No. You're just suggesting bad changes.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]Your reasoning is brash and not fully thought through, Nickname. Take for example - "Also, the nerf on the base of the % is needed at Amumu, because as tank, he deals too much dmg." The reason people focus him is because he has dangerous CC and hits relatively hard. AP ratios are pointless on him because he doesn't build AP apart from maybe an Abyssal Sceptre in niche circumstances. His late game power is fine as it is.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]He actually scales well with AP on all spells but his tears. But you're still mostly correct.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Hey Searz, is 0/9/21 or 0/11/19 stronger since the jungle rework?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]definitly 0/11/19 if you start at wolves. You need dat [[awareness]] for it.^^ I would go 0/13/17^^ [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-0-3-2-4-0-2-1-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-0-3-0-4-0-0-4-0-1-0-4-0-0-0-0&v=2] (This also allows more ganks through the combination of [[awareness]] and [[greed]], without falling too much back) BTW: They will further increase the XP, so [[awareness]] is even more worth it.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]The utility tree is very bottom heavy right now. The masteries at tier 3 and 4 are all kinda bad. If you're going to to spend more than 9 in utility chances are that you'll want to go all the way. @Nick Seriously, stop suggesting bad things >.>[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, what you want? CDR+SSCDR or HP+DMG reduction For jungle [[amumu]] you can choose.^^ [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=1-2-3-2-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-0-3-0-4-0-0-4-0-1-0-4-0-0-3-1&v=2] That would be the full utility. But you loose a good chuck of HP. [[durability]] alomne isn't worth to skill it. [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-0-3-2-4-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-0-3-0-4-0-0-4-0-1-0-4-0-0-2-0&v=2] 11 in defense. That would be the midway. But what is better for [[amumu]]? 4% cdr or 2 less dmg per attack(AT THE JUNGLE!) I also nearly cap out my cdr with [[frozen heart]]+[[shurelya's reverie]](+ maybe even [[randuin's omen]]) anyway.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]True, and I think it's pretty good to go all the way, but 11 in Defence is so goooddddd.[/quote]