Recent PBE Notes: Crushing the Sustain

[quote=NicknameMy][[Doran's Shield]] [list] [*] HP reduced to 80 from 100 [*] HP/5 reduced to 5 from 10 [/list] [[mastery perseverance]] [list] [*] Reduced to 0.35 from 0.7 [/list] So, it seems that Riot doesn't like the sustain like now.[/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]yay nerf everything more. it is totally not like literally everything is ridicoulusly underpowered right now.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]If everything is underpowered, nothing is underpowered, yknow?[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]@ NicknameMy If you're going to make a post like this, at least add the explanation from Riot (Xypherous) about these [[Doran's Shield]] nerfs (this was posted a week ago): [quote] Just a quick note because this will hit PBE soon (Monday) and will probably require some decent scrutiny / input. I also wanted to provide a quick heads up to head off the storm of conjecture these kinds of things usually do. Testing some fairly severe Doran's Shield nerfs - going kind of ham on the initial testing numbers to try to quickly find the point where it makes or breaks things. Doran's Shield is warping the bottom lane matchups and pick structure right now fairly significantly. The relative power of the item has also dramatically increased due to the mastery / vision / support changes and so the item is just better in every respect this season compared to last. What this means is that certain harass based characters are basically in a weird twilight state where they get stomped heavily and also have to pick up shield in order not to get counter bursted by the same ones using Doran's Shield. [[Doran's Shield]] [list][*]100 Health --> 80 Health [*]10 HP/5 --> 5 HP/5 [*]8 Block --> Unchanged[/list] The idea behind hitting just the Health / HP/5 is to enable magic-based harassment still effective while also keeping Doran's Shield strong against ranged attacks (I.E. I am fighting Caitlyn and Lulu and I hate my life.) We like the item's niche - but at the moment it's just too generically good against a wide array of matchups at the moment and shuts down both counterburst and harassment strategies a little too hard. I suspect that the HP/5 nerf is a bit much and we'll have to reassess the strength of some mid-laners who rely on the item. As for 'Why do this now?' kind of issues - We're in the middle of some tier 0.5 item cleanup and Doran's Shield also kind of warps all of those issues, making tier 0.5 items kind of dance around the fact that they'll never compete.[/quote] Note that he specifically mentions that these nerfs are probably too harsh and they'll have to change it again in the future based on the feedback. There are some more posts from him in the comments for those who are interested: [url=http://community.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/c/gameplay/fbA0jHAe-dorans-shield]click![/url] @ mastrer ???????????[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=mastrer1000] yay nerf everything more. it is totally not like literally everything is ridicoulusly underpowered right now. [/quote] [img=http://0.tqn.com/h/humor/1/H/m/M/-/-/Wat.jpg][/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]i overall dislike league's balancing because it pretty much only consists of nerfing into the ground whatever is overpowered right now, waiting what gets overpowered next and nerfing that. this is what happened to all the adc's, to the "classic" ap ranged midlaners, to olaf, and to a ton of other champions. The only thing that i am happy about is that one day, everything will be so nerfed that ryze is op again.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][[Anivia]] got a massive buff imo.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=mastrer1000] i overall dislike league's balancing because it pretty much only consists of nerfing into the ground whatever is overpowered right now, waiting what gets overpowered next and nerfing that. this is what happened to all the adc's, to the "classic" ap ranged midlaners, to olaf, and to a ton of other champions. The only thing that i am happy about is that one day, everything will be so nerfed that ryze is op again. [/quote] Riot has no clue on how to balance their own game. Also they keep designing stuff which is essentially broken like targeted CC and resourceless champions.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=mastrer1000] i overall dislike league's balancing because it pretty much only consists of nerfing into the ground whatever is overpowered right now, waiting what gets overpowered next and nerfing that. this is what happened to all the adc's, to the "classic" ap ranged midlaners, to olaf, and to a ton of other champions. The only thing that i am happy about is that one day, everything will be so nerfed that ryze is op again. [/quote] Riot has no clue on how to balance their own game. Also they keep designing stuff which is essentially broken like targeted CC and resourceless champions. [/quote] don't forget insane gap-closers. Why even bother releasing a champion if it doesn't have a gap closer[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Mooninites] [quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=mastrer1000] i overall dislike league's balancing because it pretty much only consists of nerfing into the ground whatever is overpowered right now, waiting what gets overpowered next and nerfing that. this is what happened to all the adc's, to the "classic" ap ranged midlaners, to olaf, and to a ton of other champions. The only thing that i am happy about is that one day, everything will be so nerfed that ryze is op again. [/quote] Riot has no clue on how to balance their own game. Also they keep designing stuff which is essentially broken like targeted CC and resourceless champions. [/quote] don't forget insane gap-closers. Why even bother releasing a champion if it doesn't have a gap closer [/quote] [[jinx]] is the strongest ADC right now and doesn't have any mobility?[/quote]