Ryze Counters

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Vitigam] Agreed, [[Ryze]] is a hard lane against [[Kennen]]. [[Vladimir]] is pretty strong in lane, but starts to fall in team-fights. [/quote] Vlad fall in teamfight? Uhhhh... :P[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Vlad is STRONK.[/quote]

[quote=Vitigam][quote=DuffTime] [quote=Vitigam] Agreed, [[Ryze]] is a hard lane against [[Kennen]]. [[Vladimir]] is pretty strong in lane, but starts to fall in team-fights. [/quote] Vlad fall in teamfight? Uhhhh... :P [/quote] I meant compared to [[Ryze]], Imo, I beleive Ryze would be much stronger in team fights than a Vlad. But, you guys probably know better, I'm not as expereinced to the game as you guys.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]They're not really comparable. See Vlad is like the KING of AoE / double AP comps. He solo's top well enough, and when your top and mid build WotA and the first fight goes down, everything goes splat with Vlad's AoE / damage buff. Stronky AoE caster/sustainer. Ryze is more centered around being tanky and bursting single targets.[/quote]

[quote=Vitigam][quote=DuffTime] They're not really comparable. See Vlad is like the KING of AoE / double AP comps. He solo's top well enough, and when your top and mid build WotA and the first fight goes down, everything goes splat with Vlad's AoE / damage buff. Stronky AoE caster/sustainer. Ryze is more centered around being tanky and bursting single targets. [/quote] Oh ok, thanks for the info. What you guys think about [[Gragas]] against [[ryze]]?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Grag's generally pretty good in most lanes.[/quote]

[quote=BarbJ][quote=DuffTime]Ryze is more centered around being tanky and bursting single targets.[/quote] By burst, do you mean like Annie where you kill someone with one set of spells, or burst single targets as in focus?[/quote]

[quote=Somalie]The dmg he deals make him a constant burst champ :D[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]I DON'T LIKE VLAD MID I LIKE VLAD TOP ;)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I mean Ryze has sustained single target burst. It's sustained but it's still burst. Just like 6 item Vayne has sustained burst. If you die in 3 shots, it's burst lol.[/quote]