Mobafire League of Legends Build Guides Mobafire League of Legends Build Guides
's Forum Avatar

Trinity Force on champions

Creator: ShortyHUN March 13, 2013 12:35pm
1 2
Do you agree?
ShortyHUN
<Member>
ShortyHUN's Forum Avatar
Posts:
594
Joined:
Feb 20th, 2012
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 12:35pm | Report
Basically i was derping around on MOBAfire and some other sites, and i noticed... well... Trinity Force. I know it's an expensive as hell item, but thats not the problem.

I see people using it on a lot of champions, what bothers me is that they use it on champions that barely benefit from it... Or don't use it on ones that benefit a **** load from it... Seriously what the hell?

Trinity Force gives:
- Low AD and AP
- Low Crit%
0 Some Mana
0 Occasional slow
+ Nice chunk of HP
+ Nice MS bonus
+ Nice AttSpeed bonus
+++ Just Spellblade

Just looking at this proves it fits attack speed based champs with low CDs... Just why should I put it on Jarvan IV or Irelia, they have high CD compared to the spellblade's CD, while champs like Jax, Shyvana or even Ezreal can use it pretty insane. Also there are champs that can pretty much cycle skills to keep up the spellblade, and not waste time and gold build a Trinity Force.

Im intrested about opinions, and constructive criticism.


Feel free to +rep me if i helped any way!
utopus
<Veteran>
utopus's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3801
Joined:
Dec 6th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 3:38pm | Report
Triforce on carries doesn't work too well (corki might be an exception), because it too expensive for what it does. Sure, it gives a little bit of everything, but sometimes, you would just want to build tanky + damage to counter an opposing top laner, or something.

Shyvana doesn't use Triforce very well. Junglers don't have the monies to buy that ****.

Ezreal likes frozen fist better. That AoE slow is ridiculously outrageous!

Triforce works okay on jarvan, because he already has such a high base damage. The extra attack speed synergizes with his E, the mana helps with E + Q + R combos, and it gives a little bit of health. That said, triforce isnt a common pick on jarvan nowadays. It's more common to see a frozen mallet, black cleavers, and warmogs on him, because people realize that he does a lot of damage even if he builds super tanky.

Triforce works okay on irelia because the spellblade, slow, movespeed, and attack speed synergize well with Hiten Style, making a near unkitable, heavy hitting anticarry.
If I helped you out, be sure to throw me a +Rep!
-

My Soraka Guide | My Review Service


Thanks for the sig, MissMaw!
Pølsemanden
<Scout>
Pølsemanden's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3800
Joined:
Jan 6th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 3:39pm | Report
Because Irelia doesn't have a spell with low-cd that can continously trigger spellblade - whereas her base-ad is not among the 20 highest in the game, aside from that she doesn't benefit from AS since Hiten Style isn't the strongest part and main damage of her kit.. Health and movespeed are both useless on a melee bruiser-assasin relying on auto-attacks to do damage.
The slow is useless as well, especially since your Q procs it so you can have extra hits in on getting the passive activated, and the CC is not needed because of your e not only being unreliable as a stun but having a high cooldown.
Ty MM and Blood for the sigs :3 | Rammus is comming back - heard it here first!


"Carrying"-guide | My reviewservice
tehAsian
<Veteran>
tehAsian's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3721
Joined:
Jul 20th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 3:46pm | Report
utopus wrote:

Triforce on carries doesn't work too well (corki might be an exception), because it too expensive for what it does. Sure, it gives a little bit of everything, but sometimes, you would just want to build tanky + damage to counter an opposing top laner, or something.

Shyvana doesn't use Triforce very well. Junglers don't have the monies to buy that ****.

Ezreal likes frozen fist better. That AoE slow is ridiculously outrageous!

Triforce works okay on jarvan, because he already has such a high base damage. The extra attack speed synergizes with his E, the mana helps with E + Q + R combos, and it gives a little bit of health. That said, triforce isnt a common pick on jarvan nowadays. It's more common to see a frozen mallet, black cleavers, and warmogs on him, because people realize that he does a lot of damage even if he builds super tanky.

Triforce works okay on irelia because the spellblade, slow, movespeed, and attack speed synergize well with Hiten Style, making a near unkitable, heavy hitting anticarry.


I'd like to point out that your first 3 points are wrong.

Trinity Force is better than PD on Corki because he uses his abilities for damage as well as auto-attacks, so he isn't as reliant on the attack speed, but he gains a ton of damage from the proc, chasing power from the slow, and he still gets crit and AS from triforce.

Same as Ezreal, except that Ez has an AS steroid as well.

Ezreal does not like Frozen Fist better, not only do you do comparatively less damage than someone who went any other offensive AD item, the kiting isn't even always necessary. Are you going to buy it against, say, against an Assassin team? How about a team that's already easily kited? Completely unnecessary and gimps your damage output.

Shyvana with a Triforce is some scary **** man.
LaCorpse's Signature Cafe


Thanks to Keondre, JhoiJhoi, Xiron, and Arcana3 for the Sigs~!
Pheyniex
<Member>
Pheyniex's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3877
Joined:
Apr 5th, 2012
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 3:55pm | Report
shyvana tf is scary and eats you alive. combine with botrk and you'll **** your pants.

also, graves is funneh with bruiser builds. =3


Sig made by elenah
The_Nameless_Bard
<Ancient Member>
The_Nameless_Bard's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
12924
Joined:
Jan 17th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 4:09pm | Report
uh, Frozen fist got nerfed for ranged champs anyways...like...the slow's area is teeny on ranged champs now...>_>
ShortyHUN
<Member>
ShortyHUN's Forum Avatar
Posts:
594
Joined:
Feb 20th, 2012
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 4:58pm | Report
Shyvana just benefits from every damn thing in Trinity Force :P. Oh yea Graves is another good one.

Jarvan IV is much better with Frozen Mallet and similar stuff, while for Irelia i'd say Zephyr is the new sh*t. But still Jax has a freakin 3sec CD Empower or less if you have some CDR... you barely have a delay between the procs... just make sure you have mana


Feel free to +rep me if i helped any way!
Pheyniex
<Member>
Pheyniex's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3877
Joined:
Apr 5th, 2012
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 5:28pm | Report
troll Irelia goes for botrk, zephyr and spirit visage. =3


Sig made by Aquilegia
ShortyHUN
<Member>
ShortyHUN's Forum Avatar
Posts:
594
Joined:
Feb 20th, 2012
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 6:28pm | Report
lolz, sounds like a pain in the ***

Lately i tried to build more cost efficiently instead of getting all the high end stuff 1-by-1. Trinity Force worths it for only a few champions.


Feel free to +rep me if i helped any way!
Pølsemanden
<Scout>
Pølsemanden's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3800
Joined:
Jan 6th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend March 13, 2013 6:39pm | Report
ShortyHUN wrote:

Shyvana just benefits from every damn thing in Trinity Force :P. Oh yea Graves is another good one.

Jarvan IV is much better with Frozen Mallet and similar stuff, while for Irelia i'd say Zephyr is the new sh*t. But still Jax has a freakin 3sec CD Empower or less if you have some CDR... you barely have a delay between the procs... just make sure you have mana

zephyr is rather bad on irelia tbh. If you're going for a purely offensive item blade or tri-force is where it's at.
Ty MM and Blood for the sigs :3 | Rammus is comming back - heard it here first!


"Carrying"-guide | My reviewservice
1 2

You need to log in before commenting.