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League of Legends (LoL) Question: How to beat a cc champs top?

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    How to beat a cc champs top?

    just in general how can I beet hard cc champs top.
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    LevasK (108) | April 18, 2016 1:48pm
    You are going to have to be a bit more specific, for example, which champs are you having trouble dealing with.

    As for CC in general, stuff like Mercury's Treads, Swiftness , and in cases when dealing with 1 particularly nasty ability, Banshee's Veil and Quicksilver Sash might help you out.
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    PsiGuard (1495) | April 18, 2016 2:20pm
    Some top laners like Fiora have ways to counter certain abilities as well. In general, it's easier to play tanky champions against people with CC because they won't damage you as much during the brief time that you're stunned.
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    BlueMoon01 (12) | April 20, 2016 5:22am
    dodge queue
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    BlueMoon01 (12) | April 20, 2016 5:24am
    jk, but try to get some :
    - Tanky champions (e.g. Nasus // Trundle)
    - Someone who have great sustain (e.g. Nasus // Trundle)
    - Someone who hit hard (e.g. Nasus // Trundle)

    TL;DR Nasus and Trundle are great champions for top

    Or try get Cho'Gath since he have silence (one of the strongest CC atm) or someone like Olaf who sees CC as nothing
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    utopus (313) | April 18, 2016 5:04pm
    It helps to pick a champion that doesn't get punished from hard CC. For example, a champion like Riven is more adversely affected by hard CC compared to someone like Poppy
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    FalseoGod (316) | April 18, 2016 2:48pm
    From what I understand you're asking how can you lane top vs a high CC champ?

    Tanky CC toplaners are generally playing a war of attrition with their opposing laner. They want two things: one, time to build up resistances and two kick you out of lane by constantly hitting their spells and slowly healing due to Grasp of the Undying + health regeneration + passives or moveset.

    There are two ways to approach versus these tanky toplaners:

    1) Take a tanky toplaner yourself, preferably one that can also sustain well. This will turn the top matchup into a wet noodle fight, were basically the first to run out of mana/resources will recall. You should both get tanky at the same time and endure the wet noodle fight. There are a few champions that can generally do well in these matchups by nature: Nasus (who isn't worried about your damage early game thanks to grasp for trades and his passive, meaning he should be able to stack properly), Darius (thanks to Q heal and strong pressure during lanephase), Maokai (thanks to passive), Illaoi (strong versus melees and passive healing), Trundle (strong passive heal, resistance theft, relevant CC), Yorick (strong self heal, great at melee range and passive damage reduction), Vladimir (should farm with ease and become strong fast).

    Your worries in these lanes are two: one, if you mess up early the enemy laner might get tankier faster, meaning they get to harass you for free and win attrition battles, giving them the advantage. Two is that high CC tops are great at setting up ganks for junglers or midlaners due to their sheer lockdown, so you should be careful when shoving.

    2) High early damage champions + strong snowballers: these are generally champions that can handle attrition battles and force the tanky toplaner out due to sheer early damage, when their resistances are at their lowest. Fiora (true damage + cc avoidance + mobility), Renekton (relevant self-heal, armor shred, very strong early game presence), Rumble (powerful early game and great 1v2 potential), Pantheon (hit or miss but if hit free toplane), Ryze (one missplay and he will snowball like a monster), Graves (ridiculous early pressure, strong resistance gain and sustain).

    The issue with these champs is that, in general, they need to snowball in order to be relevant (some more than others, granted) and, if they don't, they become easy to gank due to the tank's CC or become flat out unnable to handle the tank's engages.
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    FalseoGod (316) | April 18, 2016 2:49pm
    Laneswapping can also bone many of these champs and delay their effectiveness.
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    Latest Legend (149) | April 18, 2016 2:15pm
    You can beat them by knowing they have hard CC.

    Say you're facing a Tryndamere. When he gets level 6, you know he's going to use Undying Rage and that he'll be invulnerable for a small while. You can know how long that small while is, and you can know the cooldown of the ability. So before you start fighting with him, you must have already taken account for the ability. Can I fight this guy if he's invulnerable? Or maybe If I silence him in the last moment he won't be able to use his ult, he already used his ult 30 seconds ago, so he shouldn't have it right now etc.

    The same goes for hard CC champions. If I'm playing against a Renekton I know that he has a stun, so I only trade or fight with him when I know I can either dodge or cancel his stun or that I will win even if I get stunned. If we just had a fight, I know his stun is still on cooldown so I go back in for another trade. I know the range of his CC so I can stay at the right distance to avoid getting hit if I don't want to get hit.

    Apart from the items Levas mentioned, you can also think about the champion you're going to play. Fiora is pretty good against some hard CC top laners because you can cancel the spell if you time it right. Or you could take a champion which is good at dodging skillshots. Or just build tanky if you have to.

    Finally, if you opponent has single target CC (which basically all of them have), you can get them down with the help of a gank. Just stay out of range, farm safely and wait for your jungler or mid laner to help out. They can't stun the both of you.
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    Latest Legend (149) | April 18, 2016 3:37pm
    <3
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    FalseoGod (316) | April 18, 2016 2:49pm
    Don't worry I'll point and laugh ^_^
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    Latest Legend (149) | April 18, 2016 2:36pm
    Please, it's not like I've been a top lane main for two seasons...

    let me cry in that corner over there
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    FalseoGod (316) | April 18, 2016 2:33pm
    This is why my team sux :^)
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    Latest Legend (149) | April 18, 2016 2:24pm
    For real? Well there goes my analogy. Does explain some awkward matchups I've had until now, thanks for letting me know!
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    PsiGuard (1495) | April 18, 2016 2:19pm
    For the record, Tryndamere can ALWAYS use his ultimate, regardless of what CC he's hit by.
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