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League of Legends (LoL) Question: Iceborn Gauntlet on Ryze?

Posted in Items | Tags: Iceborn Gauntlet Ryze 6,647

  • mastrer1000

    Iceborn Gauntlet on Ryze?

    Do you guys think that its viable viable to get Iceborn Gauntlet instead of Frozen Heart on Ryze? Iceborn Gauntlet gives more mana and has the slow on autoattacks, but the other stats are better on Frozen Heart, so the question is, what is worth more? I feel like Iceborn Gauntlet is slightly better in most games, but is it worth the 400 extra gold?
  • Answers (3)

    Meiyjhe (538) | March 9, 2013 2:31am
    Let's compare:

    The stats from Iceborn Gauntlet are:
    * 500 mana
    * 40 AP
    * 60 Armor
    * 10% CDR
    * A slow upon auto attack

    The stats from Frozen Heart are:
    * 400 mana
    * 0 AP
    * 95 armor
    * 20% CDR
    * A slow of attack speed

    So let's subtract the stats of Iceborn Gauntlet with the ones of Frozen Heart:
    * 100 mana
    * 40 AP
    * -35 Armor
    * -10% CDR
    * A slow upon auto attack
    * -A slow of attack speed

    It is quite obvious that the slow of attack speed is much more useful for Ryze than the slow upon auto attack, due to the fact that Ryze doesn't auto attack a lot.

    Though you will have minimal use of the unique passive of Iceborn Gauntlet, the AP and mana will increase your damage output. This though, I am afraid, could be more :P

    The damage increase you will get from this is:
    Q: 22,5 damage
    W: 28,5 damage
    E: 15 damage each bounce

    While the damage you get per second because you do not have the 35 more armor:
    81,2 (Ryze base armor at lvl 18) + 35 = 116,2 armor
    81,2 armor blocks 45% of the enemy physical damage
    116,2 armor blocks 54% of the enemy physical damage.

    This 9% would block on an auto attack of 400 damage -> 36 damage

    The damage output you get from Iceborn Gauntlet is much less than the damage you prevent with Frozen Heart, especially since you will barely use the active of Iceborn Gauntlet.
    Also: The Frozen Heart even has 10% more CDR than Iceborn Gauntlet, which also will increase his damage output.

    I think it is pretty clear now that Frozen Heart is the pick for Ryze :D
    EthosLogos (1) | March 26, 2013 5:34pm
    Though there is synergy between Iceborn and Muramana.
    mastrer1000 (134) | March 9, 2013 8:10am
    thanks for the in-depth answer. i mainly asked because in my latest games with ryze i was like "with Iceborn Gauntlet they would not have escaped with 50 health"
    Aseafy (25) | March 8, 2013 10:34pm
    It does not give you much ap, which really doesn't affect ryze anyways. Then, it gives you a slow. However, hu don't really need this slow as you have a built in slow on ur q, which has a tiny cooldown.

    This also forces u to autoattack in between skills, which in my opinion is extremely awkward and slow.

    Randuins omen, frozen heart are better armor items.
    Embracing (353) | March 8, 2013 9:14pm
    Frozen heart almost always

    No reason to get iceborn imo
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