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League of Legends (LoL) Question: What is a healthy farm?

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  • ShortyHUN

    What is a healthy farm?

    What is a healthy CS for each role? I'm really intrested about this. Lets say at the 20th minute.
  • Answers (7)

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    tehAsian (247) | April 29, 2013 10:14am
    More than who you're laning against (as a minimum).

    180 by 20 is what you should be aiming for as a nearly perfect amount.

    220+ by 20 if you're Karthus.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | April 29, 2013 11:06am
    Pretty much, My goals is 100 by 12, give or take harassing and killing. But everyone on moba knows I SUCK at csing.
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    ShortyHUN (40) | April 29, 2013 10:41am
    Hmm so if i get 120-150 + a few assist/kills by average is it good?
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    Meiyjhe (539) | April 29, 2013 11:04am
    Calculating time :D

    Data
    Each 0,5 minute, a minion wave spawns.
    The amount of total minutes = 20
    Each minion wave has a minimum of 6 minions.
    1 bonus minion (siege minion) will appear every 3 waves.
    The first 1,5 minute, there are no minion waves.
    The first 2,5 minutes will have no bonus minion

    Calculation
    Minimum minions
    Since the first 1,5 minute does not spawn any minions, we will say that the timer is 18,5.
    In those 18,5 minutes, the amount of minion waves is:
    18,5*2 = 37 minion waves.

    The amount of minions that would be is:
    37*6 = 222 minions at 20 minutes

    Bonus minions
    The first 2,5 minute, there is no bonus minion spawning, from there on, every 1,5 minute 1 bonus minion appears. So that means the timer is 17,5 minutes for starters.
    In those 17,5 minutes, the amount of bonus minions is:
    17,5/1,5 = 11,6666667 ~ 12 minions.

    That means in total, at 20 minutes you would have 12+222 = 234 minions in 1 lane.


    Grading
    Back to school, let's grade your farm.
    If you have a grade below 6, you failed! :O
    A 6 equals: 234 * 0,6 = 140 minions at 20 minutes

    But of course, a 6 is the minimal, let's boost it up to an 8! :O
    234 * 0,8 = 187,2 minions at 20 minutes.

    That's more like it! :D
    What grade do YOU want to get? :D


    Conclusion
    You should have a minimal (really a minimal) of 140 or else you have failed :O
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    Meiyjhe (539) | April 29, 2013 1:47pm
    With jungling, you get 9 monsters per 2 minion waves
    Plus 6 monsters (buffs) per 10 minion waves.

    6/10 + 9/2 = 5,1 monsters per minion wave.
    37*5,1 = 189 maximum

    Of course, you give probably your blues to your mid lane.
    Etc etc. Some other ****

    Let's go for a 6 again :P
    0,6*189 = 113 farm

    I wouldn't say this is the minimum, since junglers are special since they gank more, and give away their blues and blablabla.
    As long it aint too far below 113 it should be fine ;P
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    ShortyHUN (40) | April 29, 2013 12:17pm
    So i guess ~160 on lane is healthy. Still intrested about jungle.
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    Meiyjhe (539) | April 29, 2013 11:04am
    If you are a laner of course :3
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    GrandmasterD (531) | May 1, 2013 11:45am
    Rule of thumb is 100 by 12 minutes, 200 by 20 and 300 by 30. The first milestone is the most important to focus on, the others will follow easily then.
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    Steppenwolf91 (4) | May 1, 2013 4:12am
    As a rule of thumb I use the following:

    - 150 CS by 20 minutes.
    - 200 CS by 300 minutes.
    - Endgame should be no less than 300 minions.

    CSing as a jungler takes a whole new world of considerations. You should be more focused in having levels rather than CS. It's not uncommon to have 80 CS as a jungler by 30 minutes and that doesn't mean you suck.

    Counter-jungle oriented champions however should have more demanding goals and CSing is more important to them as it gives a notion of how much they've denied.

    - 150 CS by 30 minutes as Shyvana is what I consider to be a good job with her.
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    Steppenwolf91 (4) | May 1, 2013 4:12am
    Um, typo... meant 30 minutes and not 300.
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    Satella (177) | April 29, 2013 10:10am
    For every lane: 10 CS per minute after 2:00, subtract 10 for every successful gank you pull off. Lower CS acceptable if sieging or forcing baron/dragon, as what matters is relative CS and not absolute CS.
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    Steppenwolf91 (4) | May 1, 2013 4:15am
    Toplane has a lot more issues keeping up with that CS: also ADCs most of the time. That ideal scenario is mostly applicable to midlane since you have access to camps.
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    Kinen (27) | April 29, 2013 10:02am
    I use 185 as my 20 minute mark goal for midlane. It's just short of 80% of the creeps and means you've missed a bit over 1000g out of 5109g. That said, 185 is my goal. Healthy might reasonably be a little less than that.
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    TheVirginBoar (4) | April 29, 2013 10:09am
    Based on MY experience your CS should look like that:

    Jungler: depends on your ganks but I think at least 70-90
    Support: 0 XD
    APC and ADC: at least 150+ kills
    Top: Not sure because Top is the only lane I dont play often^^
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    Teh Grazzh0pper (38) | May 1, 2013 12:01am
    Eww how dare you use the same icon as me :p JK.
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    eddie199 (18) | April 29, 2013 4:57pm
    lol
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    Meiyjhe (539) | April 29, 2013 1:28pm
    Yes, we are very funny indeed
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    TheVirginBoar (4) | April 29, 2013 1:18pm
    Funny and at the same time sad that people are voting me down for saying the same things as everyone else.
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