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League of Legends (LoL) Question: XIn zhao skill order

Posted in Champions | Tags: Xin Zhao 7,626

  • FlowaPowa

    XIn zhao skill order

    Hi all, i have one question for you.

    Is more better max q or w after e?

    Beacouse by maxing q I only get more damage, maxing w i have health (better for 1vs1 & jungle) and 80% attack speed. That is A LOT, and i can do more attacks in less time.

    Suppose i have 100 of ad
    In 3 seconds, 1.00 of basic attack speed

    Maxing q
    i do 225+(60) damage
    plus the 40% of attack speed
    385 total damage
    Maxing w
    i do 45+(60) damage
    plust the 80% of attack speed
    605 total damage

    Mathematically, is more better max w
  • Answers (4)

    Janitsu (569) | May 5, 2014 6:11am
    You usually want to max Q second (or some pros max it first nowdays) because it lowers your cooldowns, it is an autoattack reset and it usually deals more damage in the early-mid game. W seems to deal more damage (according to your calculations) but you don't count in:
    -How long a fight lasts
    -Will the W be up second time
    -Will the Q be up second time
    -Cooldown reduction from Q

    If you only count the 1 second, you could make something like Karthus' ult seem really super high DPS, considering that it is something like 400x5 = 2000 damage. That amount of damage in a second is impressive, yes, but it doesn't really show you how much damage will you overall deal in a fight.
    Vynertje (386) | May 5, 2014 12:13pm

    Off topic: Why the hell post this in Q&A instead of just reading a guide?
    duddadado (1) | November 2, 2015 7:44pm
    depends if your going for extra damage and cooldown reduction max q your looking for sustain and attack speed in jungle or in lane go w
    if your looking too slow your opponent as much as possible max e

    if your lanner is squishy max q for extra damage if your lanner is tanky max w
    and always max w in jungle for that extra jungle sustain
    :) hope it helps
    bitpik (52) | May 5, 2014 2:06pm
    You always max Q first if you're toplane. The damage you can deal with it is just unreal in combination with offensive stats. That is followed by E max but don't forget to put a point into W level 3 or 4 < My runepage for toplane Xin. < My masteries for toplane Xin.

    I go for 2x Doran's Blades followed by a Vampiric Scepter and a The Brutalizer. Then i normally go Blade of the Ruined King into Black Cleaver and then 3 fulltank items with either Ninja Tabi or Mercury's Treads.

    So far ive played it 15 times from Platinum 1 to Diamond 3 and although this won't work in high elo, it sure as hell dominates Diamond 2 and lower. If the enemy plays it wrong you'll oneshot him level 2.
    bitpik (52) | May 5, 2014 2:10pm
    And ignite+flash is often the best choice. I only run teleport if im vs a strong jungler and renekton. But remember kids, Renekton gets oneshotted level 2 aswell if he plays it wrong.
    Firehusary (2) | May 5, 2014 5:49am
    E is best first, because of slow.
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