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rush Phantom Dancer on champs
rush TBC on Xin Zhao
rush mejai's or SotO when losing
go multiple BF items on a bruiser as a standard build
build bruisers squishy
save up money for a BF sword when losing lane
do not buy arpen / magpen
take cs as supports
do not buy gold / 10 on supports
rush Tear on casters besides Karthus and Ryze
do not counterbuild
do not ward
do not buy oracles as supports
do not constantly gank lanes / camp lanes as a jungler
do not take smite as a jungler
do not know what QSS is
take Clarity
build thornmail and believe its superior to Randuin's and Frozen Heart in situations where they are not pressured to hell
bait horrible teamfights as a tank / bruiser
trade kills and say its worth it

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(353) |

I think we have different definitions of the term "bruiser"

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Get Zerker on Tanky dps's / offtanks. = BAD

Tryn I always get Zerker
Noc it's viable but I don't recommend it
Yi same with Tryn
Xin Zhao same as your reasoning
Olaf never >.> You NEED to be tanky
Pantheon CDR > Zerker o_o

And yeah, guinsoo confirmed a lot of buffs on shen. One of them being the enrgy regain hit on champions scales differently or something.

Taking smite is necessary on any jungler. It doesn't matter you NEED the buff control.

(1495) |

@Nighthawk: Assuming their AD doesn't already have a killing spree, they'll be missing CS (this is more for laning phase), which hurts a carry a lot more than a support. A support can die five times in lane and still perform normally. In general, a carry cannot.

Also, I didn't strictly mean that the support killed the carry (I should have phrased it better). It's more likely that both carries got the kills, but one team's support died and the other team's AD died. The carry's death is more damaging to the lane.

Like I said, I wasn't very clear about this. Sorry, I understand what you're saying and it's not wrong.

@CasterMaster: Always take on junglers. 100% of the time. I don't care if you jungle at lightning speeds with super high sustain and have a 1000 true damage nuke (cough*cho*cough), you still need smite. Every jungler needs smite. It's never about the ability to clear the jungle, it's about security.

Levels 1-5, you will not have and your buffs will be easy pickings for the enemy jungler. You're also assuming that Feast will always be up to secure baron/dragon in the late game, which isn't always so. More often you'll need your ultimate for team fights. It cannot be your only way to secure an objective. It's also close range, meaning your ability to counter jungle goes way down.

Nunu's is far less safe than 's 1000 true damage, it's on a fairly long cooldown, nunu's clear time SUCKS without smiting buffs AND nunu's epic counter jungling will be pretty much non-existent if you're trying to steal an enemy buff/objective while they're taking it.

Fiddle is already one of the most vulnerable junglers in the game. He has poor response to counter jungling and is completely shut down if you control his blue. Always take on him, he needs it more than most junglers.

IN SUMMARY: Always take on junglers.

This has been a public service announcement.

EDIT: Forgot Rose's question. are very common on due to his early reliance on AS to boost his fury bar and DPS.
I use them on because it has synergy and is almost a necessity to my build (which is tanky enough to be called "bruiser" imo).
often has them, though he's less tanky.
can use them, though are sometimes a better option. If you're soloing top Xin and you don't need the tenacity, zerk's will raise your DPS and sustain quite high, allowing you to start getting some survivability.
I've used them on offtank Malphite before (jungle, not lane).
I'd imagine they'd see some use on , though not all the time (I don't play him, so I can't be sure).
I use them when I play because of my aggressive early build, though it's possible I play him wrong (I don't own him, so I only get to play when he's on rotation).
maybe? Not too sure on this one, I have very little experience with AD sion.
Tanky and tanky could probably use zerks.

That's all I could think of. You'll probably disagree with some of them, but I think a few can certainly make good use of . Not all the time of course, you should still counter-build.

Also, CANNOT WAIT FOR SHEN BUFF, HURRY YOUR ***ES UP RIOT!

(316) |

Althought and I believe do not need to jungle, it's good for securing baron and dragon. Only exception is if I got a on my team. >

(684) |

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What? If your team's support dies, killing their carry, it's worth it. o.O
That's what I said.

mmmm, i'm not so sure about that. Your support kills their carry and dies too, so inc teamfight you have no heals and they probably still have damage. Not to mention AD Carry gets more fed and support...buys more wards.

(353) |

Example of a bruiser with Zerker?
Also, Shen's getting buffed soon I heard. ^-^

(1495) |

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Revive is a bad spell on any champ except for Karthus :P

Shen and Panth could probably use it as well. Panth has better spells to get though.

I bet would be really fun. Tank a ton of damage, die, ult in, sweep up the survivors with taunt while saving your carry. :D

EDIT: work fine on a number of bruisers. I think that's a bit too general to denounce.

(353) |

Oh right, I should add "buy Phantom Dancer on bruisers" and "get Zerker Greaves on bruisers"

(353) |

@Psi
I shoulda made things more clearer lol. Was just purty mad so I rageposted this.
Abt the jungle:
I mean as reference to junglers that always jungle and gank little. They gank a lanes once or twice and don't help lanes that are having trouble.

Abt the trading kills:
I meant like, overextending and dying for one kill, and saying its worth it when you're not going for a teamfight.

@OldBen
TBC is a horrible item to rush on ANY bruiser aka the top guide is bad.

Revive is a bad spell on any champ except for Karthus :P

@Nighthawk
Besides that guy :P I just remembered about ScarletDoom after I posted this and I was like aww **** it.
Anyways most people who run clarity are bad as ****, they don't abuse it to the degree where it's worth getting it.

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Oh and uh I think Psi means if you as the carry trade kills with their support and not the other way around, cause that would be dumb rofl :P

What? If your team's support dies, killing their carry, it's worth it. o.O
That's what I said.

(684) |

ScarletDoom had a 93% winrate with Clarity/Flash Karthus in S1 :P

Oh and uh I think Psi means if you as the carry trade kills with their support and not the other way around, cause that would be dumb rofl :P

(46) |

Mostly right ^_^

(492) |

/agree with PsiGuard

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