7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=PsiGuard]It's not uncommon for the support to roam even in 2v2 scenarios. It just depends on where the wave is, which ADC you have and how much you can trust that player to play safely enough without losing too much XP or farm. With even a small advantage in lane you should be able to push to tower and roam mid for 30s or so and then come back. Blitz, Thresh and Leona players roam all the time. The thing is you can't always count on your ADC in soloqueue unless you're duo with them.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]At higher level play, ADCs will know to play safe though. They know that a successful roam mid can single-handedly win your midlaner his lane, and perhaps the game[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Not sure if you're replying to me but if you are Psi I was responding to the previous post that implied that Bard chimes could pseudo replace healing and backing. Even as a roamer Bard kinda pales in comparison to other CC-heavy ones like Leona or Annie. Imagine if his ult did damage : ^)[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]I mean honestly Bard's roaming isn't even impressive, the only thing he can really do well is set up plays with his jungler using his E. I've yet to see a single Bard roam mid and actually get anything out of it. Blitz/Thresh/Leona etc all have way stronger ganks and skirmishing.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]I actually agree with you guys and think Bard isn't particularly strong compared to other roaming supports. Just wanted to offer my opinion that supports can viably roam without the ADC getting completely screwed over, even in 2v2 lanes.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]just watch me play support basically is what you guys should say[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Mooninites]just watch me play support basically is what you guys should say[/quote]EXCEPT YOU LEFT ME WHEN I TOLD YOU I PLAY ADC LIKE A LITTLE SCARED CHILD WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE ME[/quote]

[quote=Vengenator][color=#E8570C] Is this still being updated? So far I see that [[Heimerdinger]]'s a teir 3 support and AD [[ezreal]] mid is op. And where's the [[urgot]] mid? URGOD > TSM [/color][/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]The last time I played against an AD Ez he was basically twoshotting me with his Q. I was playing Nami support though. EDIT: Not even sure if he was midlane, will check match history. The Triforce-Muramana was definitely there though.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=Embracing]If you're not backing when your laner is you're going to be severely behind in items. The W and chimes aren't enough to sustain Bard back to full health as well.[/quote] I was talking about mid-to-late, when yes, W and chimes can get you back to full health and mana easily. During the laning phase, the chimes appear much closer to whatever lane [[Bard]] is in, so he doesn't have to roam very far to collect them and replenish some of his mana pool. Then, for chimes that are a little farther away, [[bard]] can grab them on the way to the lane after he and the adc back -- while putting out some wards at the same time.[/quote]