Teemoshy's Crawl From the Depths of Low Bronze

[quote=BigBoxGamer]that would help too.[/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy][center][h1][color=#800080]Games 9-11[/color][/h1][/center] [color=#ff0000]Game 9 - Loss[/color] [img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game9_zpsutkw0kh7.png[/img] Runes: AD, 4 Arm 5 HP, 5 MR 4 AS, 2 AS 1 Arm Quints; 21-9-0 Masteries So this game was dumb on my part. I haven't played enough [[twitch]] in recent times to have his last hitting down. This was an issue as you can see by my farm. On top of that there were many bad ults on my part and super fail "assassinations". My [[katarina]] teammate was fluxing in and out a bit with lag. [[Udyr]] didn't understand that I can't touch [[Poppy]] if she ults him and there really isn't anything I can do when it's the two of us against 4 of them. Late into the game we made some good picks that let to good fights and some objectives but ultimately we got aced in a bad fight in our base and lost. Bye-bye Promo. [center][columns] [nextcol width=300][color=#00ff00]Things I did well:[/color][list] [*]I did make a huge comeback about 22 mins in (when I got [[Blade of the ruined king]]; so late). I got my first 10 kill within the small span of 6 minutes. This is also when my [[twitch]] mechanics kinda kicked back in.[/list] [nextcol width=30] [nextcol width=300][color=#ff0000]Things I need to improve on:[/color][list] [*]Farm. This is a recurring thing so I really need to just go practice in customs or something. [*]Picked [[twitch]] when I apparently wasn't back into the swing of him. [*]Died to an early gank. This and my last death were just unnecessary. [*]My assassinations were mostly fails.[/list][/columns][/center] [color=#ff0000]Game 10 - Loss[/color] [img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game10_zpseenlercu.png[/img] Runes and masteries were same as above XP So I was stupid and forgot to change out of my ADC pages and into my Support clothes. That was only a minor issue though because, as you can see, [[cho'gath]] wasn't actually in game. I don't know if he had exceptionally bad lag or if he trololololled but he kept disconnecting and reconnecting all game. I tried my best to keep [[graves]] alive and provide assistance for my team but ultimately we couldn't pull ahead without global pressure. I don't remember much else of this game so I'll just skip to my last game, the redemption. [color=#00ff00]Game 11 - Victory[/color] [img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game11_zps3ccgk78o.png[/img] Runes: Magic Pen, HP/Lvl, 6 MR 3 Mana Regen, AD Quints; 21-9-0 Masteries Apparently Death Rocket [[corki]] is my wheelhouse because I am on a roll with him. This game was funny because the [[udyr]] in this game was the same one as the last and he and others doubted me and told me not to feed. HAH! Anyways, I started against [[lux]] with TF as support and after a short time for some reason they switched. I did die to a gank after that but it didn't give [[twisted fate]] enough of a boost to beat me. My poke was faster and hit harder so I bullied him around. After some great skirmishes that we came out ahead in and following objectives, we strangled the enemy and grabbed a victory. Oh, and [[morgana]] disconnected about 5 or so minutes before we won, but the gold lead was too much by that point. [center][columns] [nextcol width=300][color=#00ff00]Things I did well:[/color][list] [*]Very good bullying with my mid game power spike. [*]Did a good job of exploiting [[xin zhao]]'s failure to gank properly (he didn't run up to me to start attacking when I was far up in the lane. I just Valked as soon as he jumped on me. [*]Played within my poke power zone keeping myself incredibly safe.[/list] [nextcol width=30] [nextcol width=300][color=#ff0000]Things I need to improve on:[/color][list] [*]Farm again [*]The early death to TF was dumb on my part. I believe I even burned [[flash]]. [*]Roams could have been better [*]Even though I did stay pretty safe in fights, I was pushed so far up in lane most of the lane phase which made me a huge target for Xin[/list][/columns][/center] Welp, hopefully only one more game until Promos again.[/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy]So I want to thank Utopus and BigBoxGamer because I'm stealing your ideas and putting up the LSI code and Match history link to my future games. If anyone cares to give a looksee, I'll put them up for the games listed previous to this post. After yesterdays games though I'm now Bronze 4, not the worst, but only slightly better than the worst, lelz.[/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy]So I watched the replays of a couple of my games from monday and realized a few things: [list] [*] I need to get better with using activated items, I was kinda shoddy on that this week. [*] I use way too much mana trying to harass in mid lane, a problem I will be working on. [*] The reason I do so much damage with Death Rocket [[corki]] is that in low elo people don't even fathom the thought of me building AP so they just build armor against the "4 AD team" leaving me to wreak havok on them with a barrage of magic damage. [*] I normally start the day with a good warm-up Normal game but I like my plan to follow up Ranked losses with a Normal Draft as well. Started that this week and it was nice.[/list] Anyways, here are games 12-16. [spoiler=Game 12 - Victory!] [center][img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game12_zpsinxhk9kz.png[/img] [url=http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1813674319/50903075?tab=overview]Match History[/url] - LSI Code : 6EEFA2CE805E0C8B07517A9CFD2C9211[/center] This game was mostly a stomp. I took too many kills with random AoE/over eagerness but Kat got fed still so it was okay. This is the game that I realized that I barley used my actives like a n00b so I need to work on that. Lastly, my map awareness was a bit shoddy in a few places so that needs fixing. I did have a fail ulti on [[yasuo]] mid game and burned waaaayy too much to kill him with Kat but other than that I feel I did decent with my ultis and overall map pressure an getting my anchor fed. [/spoiler] [spoiler=Game 13 - Victory, in them Promos again!] [center][img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game14_zpsjdta6gju.png[/img] [url=http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1813700128/50903075?tab=overview]Match History[/url] - LSI Code: 13186255C1BC86F1D89DC947E654AD23[/center] This game made me realize why I'm doing so well with Mid [[corki]]. Look at those builds, 0 MR built. They were ripe for the picking. I did die early to [[zed]] a few times and died using [[valkyrie]] like [[the equalizer]] so I should be a little less ham but overall this was a fun game.[/spoiler] Will post the Promos later. Have to go back to work :([/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy][center][h3][color=#800080]Games 14-16, PROMOS[/color][/h3][/center] [spoiler=Game 14 - Defeat] [center][img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game13_zpssikwukln.png[/img] [url=http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1813756787/50903075?tab=overview]Match History[/url] - LSI Code: 27E35754280D20821854B7B9F66E25DA[/center] So I was a moron this game. I have a problem of picking things I haven't played in forever thinking "oh, I can pick them back up easy". If you look at the score of my only [[elise]] game you know that I'm wrong. I picked the FotM support because I like him but I haven't played him for months. That coupled with some random lag (I think my sister in law was on Netflix and we live in the country so...yeah) made me do very little for my team. I deserved this loss for sure.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Game 15 - Victory, "There's still hope"] [center][img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game15_zpstcx11wvk.png[/img] [url=http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1813831787/50903075?tab=overview]Match History[/url] - LSI Code: Couldn't upload[/center] I had a kill happy [[leblanc]] support but she did give me a good lead early. I did much better this game in terms of early farm and most of my ability usage compared to my last game. I did die too many times but that was kinda my M.O. on Monday. My big big problem was that in the hyper late game my itemization was meh. I swapped to a [[zephyr]] late and found myself not able to get around as well as I needed to. People were split up and I had the burst to assassinate anyone bar [[quinn]] if she hit her blind (which was a large number of my deaths) so I then swapped to Mobis for the cross map movement and ability to stealth far far away if the enemy team tried to jump me. Probably not the best though. What do you ADC players figure? Should I just keep the [[zephyr]]?[/spoiler] [spoiler=Game 16 - Victory, I'm Bronze 4 \o/] [center][img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game16_zpsbql4ulgl.png[/img] [url=http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1813887655/50903075?tab=overview]Match History[/url] = LSI Code: 73899EF4F940E02393E5D1BC344B9058[/center] This game. The real reason we won was [[ashe]] AFK'ed like 7-10 min before the end. The other reason we won was 7 Dragons, the last being a great [[rocket grab]] steal. Blitz really made up for an ealier pull that killed me with that steal past [[braum]] wall. On top of all of this, the enemy team was getting really cocky and everyone on our team but Rango kinda stepped up a lot in the last 15 mins or so leading to a hard fought win. I really need to reign in my early ability over usage. That plus a lack of respect for [[fizz]] (who got some early kills off of [[rengar]] >:{ ) led to a rough start for us. I also mistimed my Valk too many times. In the end we won and I'm not B5 so YAY[/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy]Updated my OP by swapping [[annie]] out of my Top roster to add [[gnar]]. I forgot how fun he is and the changes to [[the black cleaver]] apparently make him amazing, which is true. This week I'll post my 4 games after I review them. The early tl;dr is I went 2-2 losing a game because of a troll [[fiora]] and a [[katarina]] who didn't know how to build. 2 [[zhonya's hourglass]]s and would build [[void staff]] even though she was whining about enemy MR until I told her to 57 times. My overall play for the day was meh. I lacked a lot of map/game awareness and made some really bad plays or misplays.[/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy]So, I asked this in BBGamer's thread but it's better if I ask in mine. Could someone check out one of my games to give me a walkthrough of good/horrible things I'm doing for some perspective. I'd like another's (more educated) opinion so I can hopefully get better and make the most of my limited play time[/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy][center][color=#800080][h3]Games 17-20[/h3][/color][/center] [img]http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/Teemoshy/game17-20_zpson1koknu.png[/img] LSI Codes: [[lucian]] 2: 3F9DF03BC2DB2CEE6117D791903DC1ED [[lucian]] 1: 6D227231DBD0FD3BA387842EC3438F19 [[Gnar]]: 3F4C2901539F89062CE80A52F7771F19 [[Corki]]: 39C1DCCF2B07BBA7D6049CADAB49BBE4 (Enemy [[irelia]] had way terribad interwebs) Just an image and code dump today for anyone interested. I felt lackluster on Monday and can hopefully make up for it next week. If anyone could review a game and run through it with me that'd be greeeaat. :)[/quote]

[quote=utopus]i'll look into one of the lucian games. there's usually more to learn in defeat than in victory[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Your 3/7/6 lucian gameplay analysis: Pre-2:45 You should be autoattacking whenever possible so that you and sona don't get cheesed. 2:45 you should've been orb walking back with your sona well before they hit level 2. Dashing in was a blunder. 3:30 can't be missing that CS 3:50 you positioned too far back and let your sona get poked. She won't have mana for healing now if she wants to stay aggressive 4:25 you've got the right idea now, but she's oom. you should be telling her to make some flash play 4:35 Should've flash autoed him. 5:09 you should be hard pushing to tower so graves misses farm, or zoning janna from her creep wave. 5:40 look to whittle downgraves by Qing him through his minions. 6:30 when sona goes back like that youve gotta back off with her. You guys should TRY to stay the same length from the lane. 7:07 You should've recalled right now. 7:41 Sane idea - distance wise, you want to be the same length into your lane as your support; Let me know if you don't understand this 8:10 you should've headed to dragon right now. 10:00 OK, fiora's feeding a lot You need to create a lot of map pressure, so taht she can get back into the game. You should be pushing bot as hard as you can, and try to force wukong away from top lane by taking towers. 12:16 pushing here was a blunder!! You could've taken 40% of your opponents tower. 13:25 if you don't push right now, and take mid toweryou'll have lost bot tower for your rotation mid. 14:20 RIGHT now, you should've pinged that you were heading back to bot. Since graves was still showing bot, you needed to answer his push. He has a big wave and will really damage your turret if you don't leave now - he might even have time to take it. You also lost around 15 CS from his push. 15:15 go back bot and push. Really force someone to head bot and wave clear so that you can have a better poisition for dragon 16:45 that's probably one of the worst fiora's ive seen in my entire life. 17:20 you are too terrified to whittle down turrets. You have a lux coming your way and they don't have vision of her. You can play overly aggressive. If they for some reason go in on you, then she can come and clean up some kilsls for you. Also, after janna shielded her graves, she had no mana to make plays, and the graves had no health to make plays. You very well could've just taken this tower right here; I hope that's what you did. 17:42 OH MY GOD PUSH!!!! It's okay if people converge on you. You hav esion coming your wave, and since janna is still OOM, she's deadweight. It'd be a 2v3. 18:22 Sona already recalled to stop the wukong. You needed that global gold and map pressure. You should've stayed. 20:35 you should've recalled here. The reason why it's better to recall here as opposed to the other times when i've told you to push towers is that now, your opponents are 4 grouped mid, with a cannon minion. They are looking to take 3 turrets and an inhib. If they do that, it's probably game over. 21:16 Yeah at this point it's probably game over. While you have a good creep wave slow pushing top that may very well take that tower, you'll find that they've just gotten so much global gold from those towers that your team is very far behind. You should be taking every opportunity now to scrounge for CS. Since you no longer have turrets near you to protect you from flanks, it's best at this point to just farm lanes as best you can, and when the minions are pushed to an area where you don't have vision, you go into the jungle and take minions there. 22:17 During the mid and late game, I try to ask myself, "Why am I here?" If you had asked yourself this, you would've either recalled to safety, or pushed bot more. 24:07 This is another example of when you should ask yourself, "why am i here?" A full health wukong isn't just going to recall (at least, he shouldn't). He is looking to take objectives. The two objectives in sight are the bot tower, and the dragon. When you see that he's not starting the dragon, you HAVE to assume and respect that he may very well be trying to take bot tower. 25:53 You're at the point in the game where if you stay bot for too long, your opponents can baron. Push bot, and look to make a play while someone is wave clearing bot. 26:45 You have no vision of that area. You can't facecheck like that alone - even to ward. You should've used a blue trinket to first scout and see if that area you're going to be in is safe, or more preferrably, you should've gone with [[sion]], or with another escort. 31:35 You were positioned too far forward there. You need to keep some buffer space between you and your tank line, so that your tanks will have more time to react to assassins trying to sneak past them. At this point the game is probably over. ~~~~~ Work more on trying to take towers, and exerting map pressure on your own - At least for the early and mid game. It sucks when one of your teammates feeds the enemy team, but it's just an unfortunate inevitability that we have to accept - you just have to bite the bullet sometimes and make the best of a bad situation. If you want me to analyze some more of your games, I'd like you to analyze them first, using the time stamps to mark events like i did.[/quote]