The story of AP GP

[quote=HiFromBuddha]Ludens doesn't proc off Runeglaive as of next patch, so Ludens will need to be replaced in this build. I think the best option is to just buy boots.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Or [[Phantom Dancer]][/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Or you still get Luden's as it procs off [[stalker's blade]]. Don't know if it procs at [[skirmisher's sabre]] tho. Luden's will also grant that important 10% movement speed. And since the proc rate of [[luden's echo]] got reduced some time ago anyway, that isn't really a big problem. You should definitly invest into [[summoner's insight]] tho.[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=NicknameMy]Or you still get Luden's as it procs off [[stalker's blade]].[/quote] If Smite is the most effective way for the champion to proc Ludens, then I think that's an indicator to swap out Ludens. EDIT: Them damn sneaky edits.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You either get Luden's or boots, your choice. Which do you think is overall stronger and adds more damage?[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=NicknameMy]You either get Luden's or boots, your choice. Which do you think is overall stronger and adds more damage?[/quote] [[Zhonya's Hourglass]].[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Then you do not have enough mobility as Luden's grants 10%.[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=NicknameMy]Then you do not have enough mobility as Luden's grants 10%.[/quote] And then you realise how conceptually flawed this specific build path for AP GP is.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I agree that your build path is rather limited in the earlygame. You have to get [[stalker's blade - Runeglaive]], early [[boots of speed]] you can sell later, [[nashor's tooth]] and [[luden's echo]], as they are all core to the build. After that you have options tho, like replacing [[liandry's torment]] with [[zhonya's hourglass]] or [[void staff]] with [[zhonya's hourglass]], depending on how the enemies build. [[rabadon's deathcap]] is still a later game core item tho. A fixed build path isn't something mayor bad tho. Especially on GP where basically everything in terms of offense and defense scale from 1 stat, similar to Riven.[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha]The major issue with the build really is how expensive it is. The only way I can see you even getting to 5 items with this build is if you can get really fed, which may be difficult considering GP's early game, or if the games go for a really long time, which doesn't happen very often. I don't feel as if [[parrrley]] is enough to remedy it either. Like you said though, six legendary tier items is definitely the ultimate luxury build. It should be adjusted based on how you're doing.[/quote]