Aatrox Build Guide : Lasoor's Guide to Aatrox the Darkin Blade - 7.7

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Ahh yes very good.

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Nice guide but the toplane build isnt great do you know how this can be improved thank. :)

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Guide is from before the rework. I haven't played him enough since the rework to judge what to build on him yet, which is also why I haven't marked this guide as 7.11 yet. But thanks for the response.

Sincerely, Lasoor

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While the top lane build is pretty ****, like really bad, but the jungle build, especially the recommended one, is pretty much on-point; the ruined king buff makes it an excellent item to rush and both Visage and Randuin's are good options. Not sure about Fromal, but that looks alright.

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I don't play top lane much with him, but I tend to win lane almost all my games with that build. Soon I'll be redoing the guide since it is one of my first guides so it isn't up to par with my current content. When I do that I will look into the top a bit more

Thanks for your response.
Sincerely, Lasoor

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Gonna have to say I dislike this guide, for a few reasons in the cheat sheets alone.

1. Aatrox will always be better as a top laner. You have the jungle build first for some reason. His playrate is already exceedingly low and 83% of people that actually play him go top. For good reason.

2. Aatrox is not a duelist or carry. You have tank items in the jungle build, but neglect them in the top cheat sheet. A majority of people just run Botrk into Titanic hydra then tank items, possibly getting a black cleaver. Your cheat sheets mostly involve damage item, the most offensive being Trinity Force. Waaaaaaay too much of a gold dump for a champion that relies mostly on his early game to succeed.

3. Don't include trolly options in a guide. It looks unprofessional. I dont think we have the humor guide section anymore, but if we do, take that **** over there.

Edit: 4. Aatrox does not counter anyone you listed that he counters. In fact he loses rather hard to them. He mostly preys upon champions with exceedingly weak level 1-5 like Irelia (though she can still beat him after Sheen) or Singed. The champs you listed are either too safe/tanky early on or can outright outdamage him in a fight to the death (Trynd/Yasuo).

I'm not here to hate, trust me. I really love playing Aatrox and its cool that you do as well. Just trying to throw some critique around. Fix some stuff and I might change my vote later.

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Thank you for your response.

In response to #1: This is primarily a jungle guide. Doesn't make sense to go to a jungle guide and down vote it for being a jungle guide now does it? This guide does its job, it explains how to play in the jungle my way.

In response to #2: That is because I play jungle far differently than I play top lane. And yes is a duelist, but I never claimed he was a carry. In the top lane I build him like a bruiser and focus on split pushing. In the jungle I give him his needed offensive items then give him primarily defensive items so he can team fight and help his team secure objectives. When I play top lane I win lane hard. Because if you don't as you're done for regardless of what you build, he is an early game champion.

In response to #3: I will include what I want in my guide. That "Troll" build actually works and the only joke about it is the name in relation to what it allows you to accomplish. The only "off" thing about it is the mana.

In response to #4: Perhaps if you followed my guide that you hate so much you'd realize that he does in fact counter those champions very easily.

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I hate to be "that guy" to point out that you're playing at a B1/S5 level, but there it is. Pretty much anything works at that level. I climbed from that area to gold using pretty much only and and I can tell you for certain 's gimmicks stop working for him once your opponents start playing at a gold level or higher. Hence why I played for nearly all my games in S6.

I'm not trying to discourage you from writing the guide and keeping it going. I'm just suggesting that you take a step back and really look at where you are comparatively to some other guide writers around here like Vapora Dark, who have the ranking and the street cred to be making as bold of claims as you are right now.

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Last I checked high elo players all claim doesn't work at all in high elo. So how does a guide from a high elo perspective even matter? Regardless, I have plenty of high elo friends who I play with all the time so it's not like I haven't experienced high elo games.

As for Vapora Dark, much of what his guides say are extremely similar to the things I know and say. Hell, he just uploaded a kassadin guide that looks like a copy of my custom thought of build from my kassadin guide that was out for a long time already. Probably is, who knows. He ignored my comment about it.

Point is, elo isn't what matters when making a guide. Knowledge is, and I have plenty of it. Much of that knowledge is from information given by pros, challengers, and streamers. Much of that knowledge is also from experience. And much of that knowledge is self-taught and based on the math of the game.

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Hell, he just uploaded a kassadin guide that looks like a copy of my custom thought of build from my kassadin guide that was out for a long time already. Probably is, who knows. He ignored my comment about it.

When I'm not sure what to build on a champion I don't look towards other guides for the answer, I certainly didn't copy it from you. My build was developed from playtesting and researching on op.gg and ProBuilds. And it's far from an original build anyway.

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Well I did say "looks like a copy". Considering it is exact same information as mine. The point is elo has nothing to do with it. My point was my knowledge of the game and the champions is relevant in high elo as well, as proven by a Challenger ranked guide maker uploading the same build strategies as me for his guide.

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Quite the ego you have, good sir. I tip my hat to you and good day.

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When you try to claim you're better than someone so what they think doesn't matter as your only reason for them being wrong you can't exactly claim that person is the one with the ego.

Give me the math, give me the statistics, give me the evidence. Much of my build and gameplay style was inspired by a Master tier Aatrox jungle one-trick

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So what you're telling me is that none of this is really original content then. Well why the hell am I looking at your guide then when there's a master tier player that you ripped the build off? I'm quite sure I'll learn more from watching his game play than from sitting here with you telling me "No trust me, I always win. I always win lane. Always!"

If you're gonna use the "evidence" card on me you better be able to back it up with your own, and not plagiarized work, or put it back in the deck.

Sidenote, this whole downvoting comments thing is cute. It's like you're giving me "Meanie Points" cause I'm suuuuuuch an *******.

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Actually it's all original content. "Inspired" doesn't mean copied. The only thing that you could rlly say I copied is his lvl 1 start. I'm also not downvoting any comments...

You're showing your true colors more and more here.

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I was trying to help and instead of taking any critique you talk yourself up like you're top ****. You even implied that Vapora probably copies your material. I know for a fact that he would never do that, especially to someone such as yourself.

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Jesus christ OTG, you come across as a massive jerk right now. Where do you get off spouting this holier than thou BS? You say you know for a fact that Vapora wouldn't do that, but I think he would. You're a mean person who decides that the best way to make yourself feel better it to put someone down.

I'm not sure if you're actually Silver of if that's a smurf account or something, but imo stay away from critiquing builds based on high elo knowledge when you aren't high elo. I don't even play much anymore, but even when I peeked at D3 I didn't try and come across as some know-it-all jackass that has it all figured it. I don't like some members of this site but if someone is high elo on a competitive server, or a one trick, I tend to trust their expertise, no matter what my personal views are.

Compared to someone a tier above, you aren't any good. To you, Lasoor may be bad. To anyone in platinum, you may be bad. To anyone in diamond, the plat is bad. That is the ranking system, that exists.

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Whoa it's okay no need to bite his head off lol

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Pretty sure he only did because I mentioned Vapora. He has a somewhat one-sided feud with him.

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Nah I buried the "feud" with him a while ago when I was asked to be the bigger man. You got this because you're a "jerk" that has nothing better to do than to rag on this poor kid. [removed by mod]

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How you can be the better man in a "feud" that consisted of you and Moon harassing me (and Moon eventually getting permabanned mostly because of that) while for the most part I would just silently report and move on. 🤔

That's called stopping, not being the better man.

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Okay guys this is getting pretty offtopic, let's stop filling up Lasoor's guide comments. If you need to continue this discussion please do it in PMs.

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Except that his build is exact same as mine when I custom made mine lol

Only other explanation is that we think alike.

Either way you'd have to admit that I know what I'm talking about.
Anyway, you're just arguing for sake of arguing. And nothing you said actually helped me, it wasn't legitimate criticism or advice. It was just "your guide is bad because it's for jungle". And "You're low elo so I know more than you".

And as you can see someone is upvoting me and downvoting you. There's a reason for that. You have no real basis to your argument, it is just immature, unprovoked hostility and I'd like you to leave my guide page. You are accomplishing nothing here, you've already made your opinion clear.

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I'm not trying to start a fight with you man, and I'm not saying I'm smarter or better. I'm just telling you how a lot of people on the site treat these things.

I don't write guides anymore because no matter how much I study about my favorite champs, I still peak at g5-3. While I might have a lot of knowledge on the subject, I, and you, and anyone else low tier lacks either the experience or mechanical skill to preform as good as the "knowledge" we appear to have.

I apologize if I've seemed rude. I can be pretty terrible at expressing myself without getting frustrated.

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I mean speak for yourself, I myself feel I'm platinum skill level. I just don't play ranked enough (yet) to prove it. I will be soon once I finish mastering some more champions. Was also Silver IV from start of last season, just from placements where I played champions I was terrible with because I played them like normal games.

There's even sites that rate me at a platinum level and I've beaten Diamond friends in customs. I feel I know strongly what I'm talking about because I've put ALOT of time into mastering the champions that I finally make a guide for and ALOT of time trying out many builds and techniques to see what is truly best.

People can claim I'm wrong all they want, that's their right. But if they're going to do so I expect them to give me a good reason. Something I can easily see such as statistical evidence or even something as simple as custom testing builds for win rate % out of 20 games.

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Then go prove it man. Get that street cred.

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Definitely will be.

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This guide is very well done. I love it!

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Thanks for the response. Glad you like it.

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hey dude nice guide... any thoughs of using rageblade on aatrox?

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Rageblade on Aatrox is primarily for when you're mainly building AP. It's a great item, but hybrid Aatrox isn't that great, only reason AP Aatrox grabs hybrid items is because having no damage or attack speed would result in you losing like all your games since his basic attacks are main part of his kit. The main purpose of AP is for your ultimate, it does massive damage to all nearby enemies if you build a lot of AP. Your E is kind of meh and not worth relying on.

So basically only grab Rageblade if you are planning on building full AP after it.

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i was thinking more about the on hit effect duplicator... or it doesnt appy to aatrox (W)?

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I could be wrong though, feel free to try Rageblade for yourself and if you like it keep using it. It still works great on Aatrox, I just feel there's better options unless you're going AP which I don't do.

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I think it still does, but I am not sure. Regardless it isn't enough to justify grabbing the item in place of something else. Reason is your W only goes off every third auto. So grab something that primarily boosts all basic attacks such as Blade of the Ruined King.

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Rageblade does indeed make his W work faster, as well as adding in a bit of damage to his E and R through their AP scalings. However, because of the 6 autos it takes to stack up the passive, I'd say its much better top where you can get up to 6 stacks, prep an empowered auto, then proceed to quickly all-in and burst the enemy top. It can work in jungle, but it doesn't give as much burst.

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Welp there you have it.
It does seem like more of a top lane item. Kind of gives him a lot of great stats early on if you rush it. In jungle you need to think about your farm speed, objective clearing, lane pushing, and gank potential. It isn't a constant duel. You'll want utility too which your Ruined King gives you (its active)

Anyway thanks for clarifying it.

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rate my build:

Bloddrazer

Ninja/Merc boots

Ravenous Hydra

Blade of the Ruined King

Dead Mans Plate

Spirit Visage

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Here's a few issues with it. First of all Blade of the Ruined King is an item you'd want to rush early on if you take it at all because it tends to be most useful to you earlier in the game. Rushing Ravenous Hydra after jungle item and boots works for when you're going offensive, but if you choose that path you continue it. You don't follow up with attack speed and then defensive items. You would want to go Ravenous then Death's Dance or 1You should only do this if you are really ahead and plan on ending game early. Otherwise you should be following a build similar to my defensive build so you don't die easily.
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To be clear on why you don't end with your defensive items, doing that is a huge waste. Think of it this way, it will take you most of the game to get your offensive items and in that time you have no defensive capability. You are entirely reliant on killing your enemies quickly and healing off lifesteal or your kit's natural healing. If you get CC'd or swarmed you're done for. By time you get into late game the defensive items you grab will be less useful because your enemies will have enough damage to still hit you hard. So it makes little sense to change your combat strategy mid-game without any real favorable change as a result. So instead you'd want to continue the strategy of high damage and life steal and maybe end with a Guardian's Angel.

If you build the defensive items after your first 2 offensive items then you put yourself in a position where you have the needed damaging capability to kill and have the defensive capability to tank multiple enemies when in unfavorable situations during the mid-late game.

As you can see with my Aggressive Aatrox build I rushed my two attack speed items because to me those are your core items. Then you grab Death's Dance next because then some of damage taken is bleed damage, which means you won't be as weak to burst. This is a strong offensive item that also aids with your defensive capabilities. Which is why we grabbed it early instead of a pure offensive item. Then follow up with Frozen Mallet for the on-hit slow ability and the health bonus. After that you can basically end with any offensive item you feel you need at that time, but if you chose a defensive item the whole point of Death's Dance and Frozen Mallet would be gone. Only reason we grabbed those right away was because they had defensive capabilities so we could now end with a full on offensive item like Ravenous Hydra.

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how about instead of frozen mallet I get bloodthirster? how would that play out?

PS: thanks for the reply :P you da best

PS: nice guide, keep up the good work

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Do you mean for my Aggressive Aatrox build? Yes that switch is completely viable. Frozen Mallet is more of my preference than an optimization. That's why I include the optimal items as choices below the builds. So yeah, if you want to use Bloodthirster go ahead, it will give you a massive boost of damage and lifesteal. There are two reasons I chose Frozen Mallet though that you'll likely want to consider.

First of all, in the Aggressive build you have no real defensive capability. Frozen Mallet helps you a bit by giving you a lot of health while still giving you more damaging capability. Think of it this way, would you rather have 20% more life steal or 700 Health. Both are amazing choices, but to me the health is good to protect me from the burst damage. Bloodthirster allows you to over heal for a shield so at least it helps you a little there.

The second reason is because I hate when enemies get away from me as a result of their walkspeed, Frozen Mallet keeps them in one place long enough for me to kill them. That's why I use Frozen Mallet on Aatrox a lot.

It's just about what works best for you, everyone has different preferences. I personally do Bloodthirster sometimes instead of Frozen Mallet as well.

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i have a problem of people just walking away from me in teamfights/ganks alot. I see why you get frozen mallet now. I also get the blue smite but sometimes i feel like people like lucian and kalista and graves hard counter aatrox. any help?

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Basically any ranged champion with a dash of some sort can counter easily. This is another major reason he is considered such a bad champion. Unless he's 1v1 against a melee champion it requires a lot of skill for him to do anything.

My only solution is be careful when you go in. When I'm fighting I make sure I have some sort of gap closer ready to take down a ranged opponent. I also am sure to avoid opponents that I just can't hope to kill. In a team fight you don't want to go in first because you will be bursted down quickly, especially if there's an adc that you can't kill off fast. Your team should have a tank or a bruiser on it, if it doesn't then rip. The tank or bruiser should start the fight and once the enemies are on him your job will be to help him kill the enemy front line. (If the enemy adc is easy to kill then go for that instead).

Another way to team fight is acting as a bodyguard for your adc. If your adc is doing really well, but the enemy keeps trying to jump on it to kill it then all you have to do is puppy guard it. Anyone that tries to jump on your adc will be an easy opponent. is a great anti-assassin. The reason he can guard the back line well is because he's one of the strongest duelists in the game so basically the only time he has an issue fighting is when he can't hit the enemy, if the enemy is going toward him then it's just easy.

And lastly you can spam ping to your team that you're going in, make sure they're all ready to back you up, and then jump in the middle of the enemies and suicide bomb them. Only do this if you have your passive up so you can revive, basically the idea is the enemy uses up all their stuff to kill you and in mean time your team can sweep them up. Once you revive you can judge whether to help your team or retreat based on how the battle is going.

Oh and I almost forgot, don't forget to slow with your E. lol

Sorry if I rambled on lol, just want to give a lot of information on how I specifically play Aatrox.

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thanks for the detailed reply, its no problem, i prefer reading long replies :)

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No problem.

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The layout of the guide looks good and it seems very extensive and explanatory (I'm gonna be honest; I didn't read it all). Hoewever a slight annoyance for me was the bigger chunks of text were kind of hard on the eyes with the bright red colour (might just only be me whining though ^-^").
But overall a very good guide!

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Thanks for your response.

And ya the red color is probably an issue for more people than just you. But I felt it fit the theme of the guide.

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It does fit your guide, but maybe change the tone of red a bit? You can use an HTML colour picker and change the colour code ^-^.

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Changed it to white.

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I'll experiment.

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Seems like an indepth Guide! Great Job!
The matchupsection though feels a bit weird since there are just 5-6 Random Champions that have nothing to do with your Lane or Role, better skip it, if you just want to talk about very few Matchups against certain Champs better create a new section called "biggest Counters" or something.

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Thank you for your response.

The match ups show common match ups you may face for jungle/top depending on which build you are looking at. It shows the match up and how to deal with it or what to expect with it. It's match ups I have experienced. The jungle match ups are focused on jungle champions you may face with a few laning champions that provide difficulty when ganking them or late game. For example because is able to so easily beat once ahead it would be best to focus her lane to put her behind so she isn't an issue for you later. Then there's where I point out that just ganking him is great difficulty so it wouldn't be worth your time.

For the Top Build match ups it is focused on top laners you're laning against with exception of 1 jungler you need to watch out for which is . He is able to completely destroy any lead you have if you're not careful.

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What i was reffering to is the inconsistency with your Matchups. For example, you rate 10/10 because you cant gank him as an ADC and he kites you later on, but or arent mentioned.
You have also some jungle matchups shown, but very popular picks like are just missing.
And when is so hard to gank and you show him, why not ?
This are just some examples, if you want to show who is hard to gank, show every hard target, if you also want to show easy won jungle matchups, do not only take and or at least add to the Notes that they are just examples.

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and can't do nearly as much to you as . The reason can kite you so easily is because of his types of abilities. He just shoots you once and then continues getting away, shoots you again continues getting away, and so on. As soon as you get close to him he phases away. If you try to gap close he has . and are more reliant on orb-walking with their basic attacks which is something doesn't need to do. It makes the more efficient kiter and every shot he makes does a lot of damage to you. Overall you are weak to kite, but is the specific adc that you can't beat unless he is just bad.

isn't mentioned because I haven't fought a yet as . No one in my elo really plays her. is only hard to gank because she can ult you away, but that's just common sense and is for any jungler. Other than that you can easily kill her because you excel and taking down tanks, have CC, and have gap closing. If you try to kill he will barrel kite you with massive damage and get away. If you hurt him he will heal. He is also dangerous to you throughout the game, while isn't dangerous to you at all. I have also not actually played enough against s to accurately portray it for my match ups section. Everything I said about her is just based on my experience playing .

The point of the match ups wasn't to show how to deal with every champion in the game. Players need to learn that stuff on their own. And just because is good against doesn't mean he will always win. The point of it was to give general types of champions that you are either good or bad against and to show specific match ups I personally thought were easy or hard that I had enough care about to show.

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Update: Completed Gameplay section, guide is now complete

Lasoor's Guide to Aatrox the Darkin Blade - 7.7

Lasoor's Guide to Aatrox the Darkin Blade - 7.7

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