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I love this guide, but I do feel that it would be improved if you explain when it is best to take what runes, domination, sorcery, etc. It would also help a lot if you explained two more harsh match-ups; Illaoi, and Fiora. I find that I always struggle against them, and I would love your advice.
thank you. I'm glad you like it.
The secondary runes are mostly personal preferences. I usually take Boots + TWP or 5 % CDR. You get free 300 gold and TWP helps in lane. The 5 % gives you the insane 45 % CDR in the midgame with TriForce + Shojin. You can go Demolish + Bone Plating in hard matchups like poke (e.g. Pantheon), but Inspiration is also always fine. I have to test it more, but I think Domination with Sudden Impact or Taste of Blood + Ravenous Hunter is really strong. I usually take Domination in the Jungle. Sorcery is not an option for me, because I always build Shojin for CDR. I'm also not a big fan of Nimbus Cloak, when I can just go free boots from Inspiration and 5 % CDR or healing from Domination.
Against Fiora: This is a snowball matchup. The one who loses will have a hard time during the rest of the game. She will probably outtrade you in the early game with her passive + Grasp of the Undying rune. Care when you trade early with Fiora or just farm under your tower or wait for ganks. For sure you can kill her, when she plays bad, but it's like I said a snowball matchup and it's on you if you want to take the risk in the early game or just chill and farm.
You can beat Fiora after 1-2 items. Keep in mind that she will always hold her W to parry your counter strike. You can also always sidestep her W. The good thing is that you don't need your counter strike to kill her. So just AA -> W -> AA .. her. Sometimes the Fiora players are so surprised that you don't use your counter strike and they die without using the parry. In the late game (+3 items) Jax always beats Fiora and it doesn't matter if she parrys your counter strike and stuns you. You will still win the 1vs1 in the late game.
Also try to stay near walls, so she can't proc her vidals. When you are in lane against her you can run out of the screen and go back near her. Now the location from the vidal will move. Always try to have a vidal that Fiora can't reach easy. You can also buy an early Executioner at your first back to reduce her healing.
Against Illaoi: You can go for an early Executioner to reduce the healing. The most important part is to dodge her E. If she misses her E, it's a cooldown-window for you. Now you can start looking to kill her. Keep in mind that her ultimate is very powerful in the early and mid game. In the late game you can kill her easy, but before it's kind of a skill matchup. Try to dodge her tentacles during her ultimate and in lane. It's really important to not stand still. Always attack and move to make it difficult for her to hit her tentacles. You can also think about buying Tiamat to push her under the tower. The worst scenario is when she pushes you under your tower and you are sitting under your tower, trying to farm and she constant pokes you with Q and trys to hit her E. So keep the wave outside your tower, dodge her E and a lot of times it's fine, when she uses her ultimate and you just jump away. This is great for you, because Illaoi without ultimate is pretty weak.
This guide is awesome, I see you used to (or use to) play as
You could add some BBCode to the guide to further upgrade its appearance, there's even a code there (in the comments) that I did which would fit perfectly in your runes section!
Anyway, keep up working on this great guide!
PS:
thank you for your comment!
I tried to summarize my own experience with all the researches that I did to get better with
I'll check out the BBCode and update the
Thanks for the tip and the calm words. Have a nice day!
thanks for your feedback!
I win a lot of games with Jax (check winrate at op.gg: http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=decisionx), but currently I don't care so much about ranked. I want to enjoy the game more and sometimes it's just boring to pick again Jax and play top lane. So for example I pick Galio first time and play mid lane or just having fun with friends in ranked. :)
Cheers mate!
thanks for your comment!
Have a nice day!
you made so much great guide,
really nice written i enjoy playing with this guide just i need to ask you few questions,
is there any other runes that can work on jax jungle beside those jungle runes in your guide, and are you going to update this guide soon (cause it needs little upgrad).
thank you!
You can pick almost everything as secondary rune. For example: Celerity/Waterwalking, Nimbus Cloak/Transcendence, Sudden Impact/Relentless Hunter, Demolish/Bone Plating etc. It's also possible to take Conqueror instead of PTA, when the enemy has a lot of champions that stacks resistance and you want a better lategame. It mostly depends on your playstyle.
Could you please tell me which part of the guide do you think needs an update?
Good luck in your games and I'm glad you like the guide!
~Decisionx
thanks for your positive feedback!
In this build it's really important how we use our ultimate. Without our ultimate we are kind of squishy, but with it we are extremely strong. The boots are free 300 gold and a bit more movement speed. With 5% CDR we get 45% CDR and can spam our abilities.
My problem with lifesteal is that you only benefit from it, when you attack an enemy. So hard CC or running away does nothing for you. They can also buy a healing cut (Grievous Wounds) and shut your lifesteal down. I tried Domination and it's not bad, but I still prefer boots + 5% CDR.
Currently I'm testing Resolve demolish/bone plating and will update it, when something changes.
thanks for the pleasant words!
Yes, you can use the runes for jungle. The problem with Conqueror in jungle is that you usually don't have it stacked, when you gank a lane. So most of the time PTA is better, but if you face a lot of tanks Conqueror can be a good option duo to the true damage.
Against
When
Also lookout for a puff/smoke, because this signals that he used his
Good luck in your games!
~D3c1s10n
What a great guide!
Do you ever have hard times facing champions in the toplane such as
Or has it always been simple to counter these? :)
thanks! I'm glad that you like it!
No, these two champions are not a threat.
Keep in mind that
Let's be real -
A lot of
Overall you might not kill him, when he plays safe, but you can farm for free and be really strong later.
Good luck in your games, dude!
~D3c1s10n
thank you for the feedback. Congratulation to your m7 Jax!
He is definitely a champion that you can one trick and climb consistently. There are some hard matchups like Jayce, but with time you will learn how to play against them. You can snowball really hard, when you get some items and the enemys can't stop you. In Patch 8.21 Essence Reaver got cheaper, so you get even faster to your powerspikes.
Good luck and fun in your future games, mate!
~D3c1s10n
do you play against wukong before? I think wukong can destroy jax...he can E into you then W away when you set your stun.
thanks for your positive feedback!
I never had an issue with Wukong, but he is usually played as jungler and not toplaner.
You can dodge his
Overall it should be an easy matchup and you outscale him for sure.
~D3c1s10n