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Shaco jungle is ruined? or im just a total noob?

Creator: Snoozberry April 15, 2011 11:51am
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I don't jungle much, but I really like to figure out ways to do so with the champions most people would laugh at jungling (Katarina, Karma, etc...). I do pretty good too.

I don't see Jax jungling very much, and that is easy enough. Shaco jungling is just as easy as it was before for me.
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You only need to watch the first 3-5 minutes for an example, this is a "tutorial" by Reginald.
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@animorte:

A jungler needs a way to gank.

This means they either need:
  • A powerful slow like Nasus, or Malphite.
  • A good stun like Sion, or Cho'Gath.
  • A good gap closer with one of the above 2, like Shaco, Xin Zhao, Tryndamere, etc..
  • or any combination of the 3.

Karma, Katarina, Jax all lack these. (Unless Jax gets lucky with a dodge)
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JunSupport wrote:



Elder - E
Minions - M

Blue Side:

Blue buff original formation:
E
M M

Now: Golem is positioned more deeply into the camp.
M
M E

Red buff original formation: (dots placed for spacing, plz ignore them)

E M
. . M

Now: Lizard elder placed behind the minions.

M E
. . M


Either way, luring the buff to your boxes shouldn't be much of a problem at all.

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B-Wong wrote:

Either way, luring the buff to your boxes shouldn't be much of a problem at all.


It means 1~2 seconds worth of more damage from minions.

Noob Shacos have issues with that because if they don't execute the lure perfectly... They die.
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Ahaha, noob Shacos. There really should be absolutely no reason that this affects them. I personally feel that the minion placement makes a bit more sense now :P

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Yep the boxes now attack the mini's, this is just a huge disadvantage to shaco players like myself, I usually finish my jungle route (with full runes and masteries) with around 1 bar and 1 health pot. However I start at red (a.k.a reginalds route).

This affects my ganking because I have around 3-4 bars of health to gank, and it can go really wrong if they target me. I didnt notice this my first 2 shaco games after the change, which caused me to get 2-7 scores... After I realized I now am more careful with ganking and at times i just help push the lane from a safe side, thus resulting in my normal 6++-2 scores.

To be honest, I am starting to belive that instead of havoc I should get 2/2 in the buff time increase mastery.. I often find my buff wearing out too early since jungling now has become... slightly longer. and also recalling for health before a gank will not be so punishing
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JunSupport wrote:

A jungler needs a way to gank.

This means they either need:
•A powerful slow like Nasus, or Malphite.
•A good stun like Sion, or Cho'Gath.
•A good gap closer with one of the above 2, like Shaco, Xin Zhao, Tryndamere, etc..
•or any combination of the 3.

Karma, Katarina, Jax all lack these. (Unless Jax gets lucky with a dodge)


Yes, and allies can have stuns/slows to help with that. I personally think it's useless to try ganking if your allies won't or can't help either way. Well-timed stuns and slows make for successful ganks, no matter who does the stunning/slowing.
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Ok so if ur level 30 than it maks no differance, but if your level is lower, then you jungle not efficiently.
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