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"I also am Otherkin. Whenever autumn rolls around I can feel my kin-type slowly taking over my body. You must know, I identify as pumpkin. I can control it pretty good most of the time, but when September ends, I just cant hold it in anymore. Whenever Im outside I see my brothers and sisters being chopped into soup, coffee, donuts, cake, drinks, bread - ppl even cut human faces into their skin, making a mockery out of their noble appearance. When I see things like that I cant control my pumpkin urges anymore. My natural instincts kick in. I then sit down motionless, while getting bright orange." - Morgana L
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She could use a small buff to her ult and base stats WITHOUT the nerf to her passive.
She's fine.
And I'm not even saying she SHOULDN'T get buffed. I'm saying that a nerf to her passive will be an overall nerf to her viability, and that's what they are doing.
She could use a small buff to her ult and base stats WITHOUT the nerf to her passive.
She's fine.
And I'm not even saying she SHOULDN'T get buffed. I'm saying that a nerf to her passive will be an overall nerf to her viability, and that's what they are doing.
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They aren't buffing her viability at all. For organized teams the Q buff will be nice. For solo queue it's nigh pointless. The only thing they're buffing on her E is a slight range buff, which is inconsequential. Then they're nerfing her passive and heal.
Kayle's passive is what makes Kayle, well, Kayle. Any nerf to it is an overall nerf.
So she will only be slightly more viable in high ELO arranged team, and weaker in low-mid ELO.
Kayle's passive is what makes Kayle, well, Kayle. Any nerf to it is an overall nerf.
So she will only be slightly more viable in high ELO arranged team, and weaker in low-mid ELO.
We don't know exactly what they're changing yet, so let's just wait and see.
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It's from Shurelia's blog.
You quoted me though =)
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8-0-7 just now as Kayle. I took mid lane vs Ashe. Killed her twice and made her base twice. I was level eight when she hit six.
She's fine as is. Her ult could use a small buff and I'd like to see her heal slightly buffed, but that's it.
A nerf to her passive, even 5%, is a significant overall nerf, even if they buff starting stats. She won't be more offensive than she already is, she won't be more defensive, she'll just be the same underpowered off-carry that she is now with slightly better farming capabilities early game, which good players don't even have trouble with.
I've said for months, if you want to buff Kayle, do something with her ult and fix her attack animation to make it faster.
It's barely harder to last hit with Kayle as it is any other champion.
I don't feel Kayle needs a nerf.
She's fine as is. Her ult could use a small buff and I'd like to see her heal slightly buffed, but that's it.
A nerf to her passive, even 5%, is a significant overall nerf, even if they buff starting stats. She won't be more offensive than she already is, she won't be more defensive, she'll just be the same underpowered off-carry that she is now with slightly better farming capabilities early game, which good players don't even have trouble with.
I've said for months, if you want to buff Kayle, do something with her ult and fix her attack animation to make it faster.
It's barely harder to last hit with Kayle as it is any other champion.
I don't feel Kayle needs a nerf.
I never said she needed a nerf. I think they should rework her a little bit. I would like to see a more offensive Kayle.
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Her passive now, is sexy on paper. AD to AP, AP to AD...thats just downright sexy.
Now that I think about it, Jvstm, your right. Her passive is what makes Kayle, Kayle.
As for her not being viable ATM?...
I think any champ with a slow/heal/ and immunity could provide more to the team than half the champs. Not even counting her DMG potential late game...
With that said, I do believe they need to buff her ult, and I would like for her passive to provide a little more than just AP/AD conversion, but honestly its not really a problem like they make it to be.
Now that I think about it, Jvstm, your right. Her passive is what makes Kayle, Kayle.
As for her not being viable ATM?...
I think any champ with a slow/heal/ and immunity could provide more to the team than half the champs. Not even counting her DMG potential late game...
With that said, I do believe they need to buff her ult, and I would like for her passive to provide a little more than just AP/AD conversion, but honestly its not really a problem like they make it to be.
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First I think they need to make her passive a 1:1 ratio: like 25% of both AP and AD is converted to the other...that would help somewhat...I also think they need to at least make her E deal either magic damage or physical damage (not physical + bonus magic) at the increased range. If her other damaging ability scaled off of both AP and AD and the other two were left alone for the most part (other than maybe a buff to her ult), then hybrid Kayle would actually make sense, because you wouldnt be sacrificing the damage her abilities can do to optimize her passive.
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