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AP Carry really necessary?

Creator: Flubadoo May 31, 2011 12:07pm
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Isn't the point of a team's total DPS to be a mix of magic and physical damage?

Wouldn't it be okay to have something like on-hit Kog'Maw or on-hit Teemo replace an AP carry, such as Malzahar? They both deal magic damage.
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An AP carry is usually capable of massive burst damage.
Kog'Maw and Teemo with on hits are sustained damage.
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Zep said what I was thinking.
I personally feel that a carry should be able to just instantly blow someone away. Not be a sustained damage. Being able to nuke someone really fast I feel has a bigger positive over someone that can throw out damage and kill someone, but takes longer to do so. In a team fight you want to go in and blow through them as fast as possible. Getting their team all dead at roughly the same time allowing a giant push into the base.
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By AP Carry, I'm presuming you mean a "Nuke."

On good competitive teams, yes.
There needs to be someone who can bring the target squishy down from 80% HP to 0% swiftly in team fights after tanks initiate.
Otherwise:
1. Risk of enemy out damaging you in the micros of DPS, which can easily happen if your team is the underfed underdog.
2. Risk of enemy Nuke taking down your own allied squishies.


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Kog'maw can nuke like a boss with the Caustic Spittle range buff.
Just as matter of having intimate experience with R.
Ooze nuke slow -> Caustic nuke MR reduce -> Rain Artillery death upon them as they try to run/chase.
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Ap carry is pretty mutcht the nuker role from Dota/HoN, the only diffrence is that they can scale in late game, makeing them able to carry. Hence ap carry
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Ap carry is pretty mutcht the nuker role from Dota/HoN, the only diffrence is that they can scale in late game, makeing them able to carry. Hence ap carry


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I wuld say karthus can nuke pretty good... That Q is just wtf -.-

And i think of ryze as tanky dps...
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Ryze isn't tanky DPS.

He builds tanky DPS, but the stats don't amount to the same league as someone like Mordekaisder.
A role is defined by it's build AND abilities. Ryze's Q,W,E,R =/= Tanky DPS.

If you didn't notice, Karthus Q is a spammable skill.
If fed, it looked like you nuke, but when not fed and coupled with Defile, it's DPS.

Karthus is a bit like Twitch. Do tons of DPS, then do a solid nuke for a finish if they're not already dead. (Expunge/Requiem)
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JunSupport wrote:

Kog'maw can nuke like a boss with the Caustic Spittle range buff.
Just as matter of having intimate experience with R.
Ooze nuke slow -> Caustic nuke MR reduce -> Rain Artillery death upon them as they try to run/chase.


But.. that's more DPS magey if you're building AP for that damage. All those skills together doesn't amount to any sort of nuke that we're familiar with (Malz/Annie/Veigar,etc.)

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