How Do You Jungle Udyr Now?

[quote=VoiD]After patch [url=http://www.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-v100120]v1.0.0.120[/url], tiger stance and overall Udyr's jungle mana problems have been buffed. Before I enjoyed jungling Udyr with Tiger stance, but now im not sure which skill to go for. /Discuss[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Tiger stance is still one of the faster routes. It's also the higher damage one.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]I prefer Phoenix Stance jungle because of the flame proc which deals insane dmg early on.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]youtube "Udyr stonewall008" Pick the most recent video, that's not "super jungle" and you should find decent route.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]No, Phoenix is still much stronger and faster for jungling. Tiger is better for ganking.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I jungle how I want! Ganking is what Udyr needs too. It's vital to his viability.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=Lugignaf] I jungle how I want! Ganking is what Udyr needs too. It's vital to his viability. [/quote] Bear Stance and any offensive skill made him terrifying. Buffed Tiger doesn't explain why pre-Tiger change Udyr was still really good.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]It's the reduced mana costs. He's not as reliant on blue to get the job done anymore.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=Lugignaf] It's the reduced mana costs. He's not as reliant on blue to get the job done anymore. [/quote] Doesn't change the fact that Phoenix still clears the jungle faster than Tiger o.o[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Just gonna post this here. Standard Phoenix Superior - Lv5 - 5:05 Offensive Phoenix Superior - Lv5 - 4:40 Standard Phoenix Aggressive - Lv4 - 3:30 Standard Tiger Aggressive - Lv4 - 3:40 Standard Tiger Superior - Lv5 - 4:45 [youtube=PQjVmQi3QKw] edit: Sorry, posted without checking the video.[/quote]